Ret Aura vs Sanctity Aura

[Girard]

I presently have a 0/40/21 build and have generally been rolling with Sanctity aura up.

However, now I have 2pc T5 and wanted to know if having a ret aura that ticks for ~41/hit vs +10% to all spelldamage is better. Mostly thinking for Morogrim.

[corc]

I think what you would have to think about is the difference between the ret aura procs and the increase to cons damage. If +10% damage = damage from ret aura then go ahead and use which ever one you want. >, use 10%, < use ret.

Sure you should include the sanc blessing proc damage too, but this will just make it simple.

Using the equations and spell coeffs from wowwiki:

(Cons damage)(10%) = (ret damage)(110%)/2
(131 + (+dam)(76%))(10%) = 41(55%)
13.1 + (+dam)(7.6%) = 22.55
(+dam) = (22.55 - 13.1)/(7.6%)
(+dam) = 125 +damage

So, if you've got 125 +damage then use your 10% aura, otherwise use the ret aura.

I think in most cases though, you should always use the +10% aura if you've got it and have a holy pali give you ret even if it isn't as poweful as yours.

*as Jere noted, you only get hit about 50% of the time, so I modified the numbers to show that you need even less +dam to justify the 10% aura

[jere]

I think what you would have to think about is the difference between the ret aura procs and the increase to cons damage. If +10% damage = damage from ret aura then go ahead and use which ever one you want. >, use 10%, < use ret.

Sure you should include the sanc blessing proc damage too, but this will just make it simple.

Using the equations and spell coeffs from wowwiki:

(Cons damage)(10%) = (ret damage)(110%)
(131 + (+dam)(76%))(10%) = 41(110%)
13.1 + (+dam)(7.6%) = 45.1
(+dam) = (45.1 - 13.1)/(7.6%)
(+dam) = 421 +damage

So, if you've got 421 +damage then use your 10% aura, otherwise use the ret aura.

I think in most cases though, you should always use the +10% aura if you've got it and have a holy pali give you ret even if it isn't as poweful as yours.

Just something to note: You calculations assume that ret aura hits every time. If you have around 40-50% dodge + parry + miss, then you will need much less spell dmg for consecrate to match ret aura on average.

Just wanted to toss that info in for consideration..

[Girard]

I think what you would have to think about is the difference between the ret aura procs and the increase to cons damage. If +10% damage = damage from ret aura then go ahead and use which ever one you want. >, use 10%, < use ret.

Sure you should include the sanc blessing proc damage too, but this will just make it simple.

Using the equations and spell coeffs from wowwiki:

(Cons damage)(10%) = (ret damage)(110%)
(131 + (+dam)(76%))(10%) = 41(110%)
13.1 + (+dam)(7.6%) = 45.1
(+dam) = (45.1 - 13.1)/(7.6%)
(+dam) = 421 +damage

So, if you've got 421 +damage then use your 10% aura, otherwise use the ret aura.

I think in most cases though, you should always use the +10% aura if you've got it and have a holy pali give you ret even if it isn't as poweful as yours.

I use the 10% aura at all times pretty much since that's a straight 10% threat boost.. and I'm loved on Leo by all our holy priests for making their lives easier =)

Hmm.. I roll at about ~400 +dmg buffed so I'll stay with sanctity aura. Danke!

[Lore]

It's worth noting that if you primarily use Ret Aura you would be able to pick up Avenger's Shield.

[Worldie]

I usually get another pally in party for Retri aura so i can use my Sanctity aura
I got 2 t5 and imp retri aura as well but i use that one only if theres no chance of getting another paladin in party with me.

[corc]

Just something to note: You calculations assume that ret aura hits every time. If you have around 40-50% dodge + parry + miss, then you will need much less spell dmg for consecrate to match ret aura on average.

Just wanted to toss that info in for consideration..

true, I should change it.

[Teah]

I usually get another pally in party for Retri aura so i can use my Sanctity aura
I got 2 t5 and imp retri aura as well but i use that one only if theres no chance of getting another paladin in party with me.

If I can convince the healing leader I can get one of our holy paladins to go 40/0/21. I mean we have 4 extremely active ones it can't hurt. =X But we are not progressed enough for me to really want that.

[Worldie]

When i asked that they said "oh noes we cant lose our talents we'll go oom etc", so to get Sanctity i had to respec myself (and, lollable, i took imp retri aura as well)




Like paladins had mana problems =|

[Teah]

Holy paladins don't have mana problems.. heck I've had zero problems as 40/21/0 when I needed to go holy myself.

Theres no real difference in that and 40/0/21 in my eyes. It's for a raid buff.

But I guess the best case scenario is a ret pally

[Worldie]

To be honest if a paladin is going to spec for sanctity aura he needs at least 23 points in retri, since Imp Sanctity is a good buff if you are Holy (nearly every aura is useless). I would have taken it but i couldnt take points from Ardent Defender, and neither from Imp Holy Shield.

[Girard]

It's worth noting that if you primarily use Ret Aura you would be able to pick up Avenger's Shield.

That's the one thing I miss is that AS for Leo.. but I've managed to pick him up before he WTFPwns someone without it so far, it's just not as easy.