Theck's MATLAB TPS analysis  WotLK/3.x
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Updated the reckoning code to:
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Reck=1(10.02.*Reck_points.*(1player_avoid))^(min([8 4.*weapon_swing_speed])/swing_timer);
Melee_Swing_DPS = Melee_Swing./(weapon_swing_speed./(1+Reck));
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Also, one suggestion for clarity: consider renaming swing_timer to boss_swing_speed, and possibly weapon_swing_speed to player_swing_speed.
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Dorvan wrote:Like Maj, I strongly disagree with your premise (5/5 Divinity is far from essential), but for those interested here are the numbers:
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Spec DPS TPS
SotP+3/5Convic 3190 8247
5/5Convic+2/3Crusade 3198 8247
No, that's not a typo: for the gear set up included they came out exactly equal on tps, with 2/3 crusade slightly higher for dps. Again though, I really can't see valuing a point in Divinity over a point in Crusade.
in this test you did,,,, was crusade giving 2% more dmg or 4% more dmg? just curious..
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Unless stated otherwise, I am always assuming a nonundead, nonCrusade mob. So it was 2%, not 4%.
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Dorvan wrote:Also, one suggestion for clarity: consider renaming swing_timer to boss_swing_speed, and possibly weapon_swing_speed to player_swing_speed.
Done.
Also, I spent some time today to fix up the gear.m file. It now allows for individual selection of items, and comes preloaded with some of the topend items for each slot. I didn't have time to transcribe everything, but if someone posts stat arrays for items they'd like to see added, I'll add them to the file.
The next thing I'm going to do start calculating player_avoidance and block_percent properly based on the gear set and buffs. Since the gear set now contains all of the defensive stats as well, we can also start doing calculations of defensive statistics, if we desire to do so. I'll need to dig up some values and equations for this though (base avoidance stats for a naked, untalented lvl 80, for example) along with any other metrics we might want to examine.
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Interesting... I missed the new Greater Potency (50 AP) and Superior Potency (65 AP) enchants in my enchant analysis. This thread drew my attention to it, and the results suggest that Superior Potency is a better enchant for threat and DPS:
<edit> Values removed, they were wrong. Corrected values down a few posts.
This is using the new gear set (full T7.25 etc, though the numbers don't change more than around 12% if you drop to T7.10). Also, Mongoose is correctly including the haste effect, as per Dorvan's suggestion earlier.
<edit> Values removed, they were wrong. Corrected values down a few posts.
This is using the new gear set (full T7.25 etc, though the numbers don't change more than around 12% if you drop to T7.10). Also, Mongoose is correctly including the haste effect, as per Dorvan's suggestion earlier.
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Majiben wrote:You have some massive errors there that need to be addressed.
Hm... looking at that now as per your comments in the other thread.
<edit> Ah, I see what I did now. You're right, I'm doubling the value of AP... I think I'm going to redo the entire enchant calculation file to make it more transparent what's going on.
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Ok, updated some code to make things easier. extras is now split into two variables:
extra_by_ipoints contributes to each stat based on it's statmod allocation (i.e. 10 item points worth of the stat)
extra_by_value contributes to each stat by value, i.e. 1 AP, 1 STR, 1 SP, etc.
I rewrote the enchant module to use extra_by_value instead, since the enchants aren't equally allocated in item points.
The numbers now look like this:
The only ones that have changed were the AP ones, but those are the most significant, sine it bumps both of the new Potency enchants back down to their rightful place beneath our beloved 20 str enchant.
extra_by_ipoints contributes to each stat based on it's statmod allocation (i.e. 10 item points worth of the stat)
extra_by_value contributes to each stat by value, i.e. 1 AP, 1 STR, 1 SP, etc.
I rewrote the enchant module to use extra_by_value instead, since the enchants aren't equally allocated in item points.
The numbers now look like this:
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Enchant DPS TPS
Berserking 45.0 113.7
Accuracy 25.6 65.0
Potency (BC) 21.6 55.9
Superior Potency 20.9 52.8
Ti Weap Chain 19.1 48.9
Greater Potency 16.1 40.6
Mongoose (BC) 12.0 27.7
Ex. Agility 8.7 21.5
The only ones that have changed were the AP ones, but those are the most significant, sine it bumps both of the new Potency enchants back down to their rightful place beneath our beloved 20 str enchant.
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theckhd wrote:Ok, updated some code to make things easier. extras is now split into two variables:
extra_by_ipoints contributes to each stat based on it's statmod allocation (i.e. 10 item points worth of the stat)
extra_by_value contributes to each stat by value, i.e. 1 AP, 1 STR, 1 SP, etc.
I rewrote the enchant module to use extra_by_value instead, since the enchants aren't equally allocated in item points.
The numbers now look like this:
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Enchant DPS TPS
Berserking 45.0 113.7
Accuracy 25.6 65.0
Potency (BC) 21.6 55.9
Superior Potency 20.9 52.8
Greater Potency 16.1 40.6
Ti Weap Chain 19.1 48.9
Mongoose (BC) 12.0 27.7
Ex. Agility 8.7 21.5
The only ones that have changed were the AP ones, but those are the most significant, sine it bumps both of the new Potency enchants back down to their rightful place beneath our beloved 20 str enchant.
i have 161 hit rating, its 4.91%, currently have 20str on my last laugh... ur sayin accuracy enchant would be more beneficial, and the glow is much cooler amirite?
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steadypal wrote:i have 161 hit rating, its 4.91%, currently have 20str on my last laugh... ur sayin accuracy enchant would be more beneficial, and the glow is much cooler amirite?
For bosses, Accuracy will be better until you reach the melee hit cap, after which point Hit becomes less useful. That will be around 220ish rating, assuming you have a Draenei in your group for the 1% hit aura.
For trash, which only has a 6% spell hit cap, Accuracy will be better if you are below the hit cap, but will be worse if above it. In your case, with 161 hit rating already Accuracy will be better for bosses, Potency will be better on trash.
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Just to check  recalculating the enchants for a rotation that only uses Consecration and Holy Shield (i.e. for trash)
So again, for trash, Hit wins if below the cap, and since neither HS or Consecrate can crit, the weapon chain actually wins.
Once you're above 6% spell hit, Superior Potency edges out Potency, which edges out Greater Potency.
However, I'd still say Potency (BC) is the better enchant for trash, simply because it also gives you BV, and STR does more for our other abilities. I don't know about you, but when tanking trash I'm usually also tabtargetting and using HotR and ShoR on cooldown, which this rotation file doesn't model at all.
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Enchant DPS TPS
Berserking 8.5 23.4
Ti Weap Chain 6.0 16.5
Accuracy 5.3 14.8
Superior Potency 3.9 10.9
Potency (BC) 3.1 8.5
Greater Potency 3.0 8.4
Mongoose (BC) 0 0
Ex. Agility 0 0
So again, for trash, Hit wins if below the cap, and since neither HS or Consecrate can crit, the weapon chain actually wins.
Once you're above 6% spell hit, Superior Potency edges out Potency, which edges out Greater Potency.
However, I'd still say Potency (BC) is the better enchant for trash, simply because it also gives you BV, and STR does more for our other abilities. I don't know about you, but when tanking trash I'm usually also tabtargetting and using HotR and ShoR on cooldown, which this rotation file doesn't model at all.
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