Block Value -> Shield of the righteousness convertion

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Block Value -> Shield of the righteousness convertion

Postby Belarkan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:24 pm

I am trying to understand how I get the ShotR damages from the BV.

I'm currently at 1262 BV.
ShotR is BV+520 which gives 1782.

Redoubt is counted in the base BV.
Shield of the templar gives +30% to ShotR
1 handed weapon gives 10%

So whatever I do, I do not understand how it works.

1782 * 1.3 * 1.1 = 2548.26
1782 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.1) = 2494.8

My ShotR hits for 2377.

Any idea what I missed ?
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Postby Belarkan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:27 pm

ok, in reply to myself, I finally found it a strange combination:

((1262 * 1.3) + 520) * 1.1 = 2376,66 which is near enough to 2377.

It seems weird that shield of the templar doesn't take the additional damage in the 30%.

Is that a bug ?
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Postby Dorvan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:38 pm

Looks like it could well be. Let's have someone else confirm this (I would, but I'm not prot atm) and you should report it.
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Postby xstrykr » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:44 pm

I don't think so. ShoR R2 is actually BV+400. With Shield of the Templar, 30% of 400 = 120, which is why it ends up being BV+520.

Therefore your math of (BV * (1 + 0.3 + 0.1)) + 520 would yield the correct calculations, as would (BV (with Redoubt) + 400) * 1.4.
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Postby Belarkan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:56 pm

xstrykr wrote:I don't think so. ShoR R2 is actually BV+400. With Shield of the Templar, 30% of 400 = 120, which is why it ends up being BV+520.

Therefore your math of (BV * (1 + 0.3 + 0.1)) + 520 would yield the correct calculations, as would (BV (with Redoubt) + 400) * 1.4.


Ok, so that's a translation issue, my tooltip says BV+520.
Or the tooltip includes the shield of templar but not 1 handed since 400 * 1.3 gives 520.

Could someone just check his tooltip ?
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Postby Flex » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:00 pm

Talents that affect a specific ability/abilities (SottT) update those tooltips. Talents that affect everything (1HWS) don't update tooltips.
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Postby Belarkan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:29 pm

Flex wrote:Talents that affect a specific ability/abilities (SottT) update those tooltips. Talents that affect everything (1HWS) don't update tooltips.


Well, it's a shame it mentions BV+520 instead of the right value then.
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Postby Flex » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:56 pm

Belarkan wrote:
Flex wrote:Talents that affect a specific ability/abilities (SottT) update those tooltips. Talents that affect everything (1HWS) don't update tooltips.


Well, it's a shame it mentions BV+520 instead of the right value then.


Almost as annoying as warrior abilities that go "Damage is increased by attack power." without updated numbers.
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Postby Belarkan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:05 pm

Flex wrote:Almost as annoying as warrior abilities that go "Damage is increased by attack power." without updated numbers.


Sure, but it is less misleading than false information for ShotR ;)

Anyway, thanks all for the explanations :)
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Postby Fridmarr » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:07 pm

Belarkan wrote:
Flex wrote:Almost as annoying as warrior abilities that go "Damage is increased by attack power." without updated numbers.


Sure, but it is less misleading than false information for ShotR ;)

Anyway, thanks all for the explanations :)


Since this thread has come to a logical conclusion, I'd just like to add...

There is no "the" in Shield of Righteousness, therefore the proper abbreviation is ShoR.
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Postby tullock » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:36 am

But did you know that the libram that boosts damage for shield of the righteous also boosts damage for shield of righteousness....
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Postby Wibu » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:38 am

Tullock wrote:But did you know that the libram that boosts damage for shield of the righteous also boosts damage for shield of righteousness....

Wait, what?
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Postby Salamandra » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:49 am

He's right. The Libram that boosts damage for "Shield of the Righteous" does boost damage for Shield of Righteousness.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38363

Libram equip bonus has a massive error.
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Postby Belarkan » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:50 am

Tullock wrote:But did you know that the libram that boosts damage for shield of the righteous also boosts damage for shield of righteousness....


Of course, but what has it to do with this topic ?
As fridmarr said, the thread has come to a logical conclusion that the tooltip is misleading about ShoR.

OK, but I had the libram that increases the block value after a judgement and I wasn't judging anything.
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Postby Snake-Aes » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:07 am

Belarkan wrote:
xstrykr wrote:I don't think so. ShoR R2 is actually BV+400. With Shield of the Templar, 30% of 400 = 120, which is why it ends up being BV+520.

Therefore your math of (BV * (1 + 0.3 + 0.1)) + 520 would yield the correct calculations, as would (BV (with Redoubt) + 400) * 1.4.


Ok, so that's a translation issue, my tooltip says BV+520.
Or the tooltip includes the shield of templar but not 1 handed since 400 * 1.3 gives 520.

Could someone just check his tooltip ?
Confirmed it. The tooltip updates the bonus damage with Shield of the Templar, but not with anything else. The calculation is (bv + 400) * 1,3*1,1
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