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Crushing blows during instant casts...

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Postby Arcand » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:13 pm

Lore wrote:I would encourage everyone who reads this thread to mention something there as well, at least in the bug thread.


One of the Bug Forum regulars has cautioned us that Hortus, the main bug-report rep, gets pissed off when people bump threads...and he's an important part of the apparatus which decides what to fix and when.

So bumping of the bug thread should be done under the pretext of adding more information about the bug...tell them if it did/didn't happen to you and what your OS, gear and talent build were like.

Who knows; you might even unwittingly contribute something useful. :)
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Postby Lore » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:44 am

Blue response! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 7&sid=1#72

Hortus wrote:Thanks for all the reports. This is being investigated.


Not much, but at least we know they're looking into it!
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Postby Arcand » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:49 am

Beat me to it. :P

I wonder if step 1 is...

* Trying to reproduce the bug, or

* E-mailing somebody in class design to see if this gets the dreaded "WAI" stamp

Hope they e-mail someone friendly to our cause. :shock:
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Postby Grampie » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:25 am

I don't believe it is a bug. It will happen when you drink potions and so forth. It is designed to not work when you use do things that require you to not use your shield. Like you technically do not get an attack off while casting and so forth because you can't use your weapon hand. Same goes with the shield hand as well.
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Postby Lore » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:33 am

It's not really a "bug" so much as "unintended behavior".

Not being able to block while casting is one thing... but these are instant cast abilities.
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Postby Aergis » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:56 am

but these are instant cast abilities.


And more importantly, the main abilities to gain agro. Judgements, exorcism, consecration etc. Imagine if warriors put their shield on their backs for say... sunder armor.

It's definatley not intended. Pots and cleanse and lay on hands or casting blessings I could see, becasue they are meant to buff or save you. Our primary threat abilities though are spammed constantly, and causes too big of a window for crushings.
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Postby Lore » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:45 pm

Got an IM from a friend of mine who used to work in the GM department:

(4:32:21 PM) Friend: So, I called up one of my QA friends while I was getting my lunch and asked them about your bug.
(4:33:01 PM) Friend: They said the entire Bug Database entry on this is like a summarized C&P of your posts, hehe.
(4:33:38 PM) Friend: Its also been given an Orange/Level 2 priority for resolution.
(4:33:49 PM) Friend: Which is pretty huge.
(4:34:16 PM) Friend: Level 2 priority bugs tend to be stuff that's considered bad enough to hotfix.
(4:34:23 PM) Friend: If a hotfix can resolve it.
(4:34:43 PM) Friend: Otherwise it means that they work on resolving it for its own patch or a mini-patch.
(4:36:33 PM) me: Nice
(4:37:59 PM) Friend: So if Blizzard comes out with a 2.0.13 patch or something of that nature now, and it has Pally bug fixes in it, it is officially the Lore Patch.
(4:38:09 PM) me: Nice
(4:39:10 PM) Friend: And if people bitch about having to patch, it'll all be your fault.
(4:39:22 PM) me: I'll be damn proud of it

Woo!
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Postby Aergis » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:07 pm

In that case... Please double check your testing for judgements and exorcism!! I'd hate to have consecration hotfixed and leave out the others lol
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Postby Dorvan » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:15 pm

Wow...thanks for the inside scoop Lore :-)
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Postby Lore » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:16 pm

The post in the bug forum includes that Judgement and Exorcism cause it. There's actually a pretty long list of things in there :P
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Postby Arcand » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:01 pm

4/5 3:58:34.031 Lore casts Grapevine.
4/5 3:58:34.034 You are affected by Lore's Insider Information.
4/5 3:58:34.034 You gain Hope.
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4/5 3:58:35.577 Shattered Hand Gladiator hits Lore for 8415 (crushing).
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Postby Lore » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:55 pm

Arcand wrote:4/5 3:58:35.577 Shattered Hand Gladiator hits Lore for 8415 (crushing).


I lol'ed into vent mid-sentence.

My guild thinks I'm crazy now.
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Postby Dorvan » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:22 am

Although we've already gotten Lore's inside scoop, for the record there's now an offical post that this bug is going to be fixed:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 33&sid=1#0
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Postby Triden » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:27 am

Awesome! :D
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Postby Jensaarai » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:28 pm

Nice
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