So how much does hit really matter?

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So how much does hit really matter?

Postby callimar » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:56 pm

Since 3.0 been lookin at how much Ive been missing attacks at it seems on average im missing about 15% of attacks for each ability.

http://wowwebstats.com/nmnk2mlb52jk1?a=x1e5da71&s=bosses

This is our WWS from BT (yay on lots of IC wipes from new ppl) but if you notice i had a pretty darn big amount of misses. Is anyone seeing this too or did I just get on the failboat and not notice. Im not complainign about my tps its fine but I would like to look into getting more hits to land because there are times where I will miss a judge then a HotR back to back and that really hurts. Thanks for your input.

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Edit: heres a WWS from last week in SWP where 22% of HotR missed on brute.
http://wowwebstats.com/6ylxoq1zc2kdu?a=x1e5da71&s=37274-73702
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Postby 2ndNin » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:16 am

Seems really odd tbh, HotR at least was on melee hit afaik (base 9% chance vs bosses), yet you have it more like on spell hit (17% chance), and even then its quite high for that on some abilities.

Just to check, your skill in your weapon is maxed out right? (wouldn't be the first time I got a new weapon and realised I had 0 skill in it :P). Can't really think of a reason for the massive miss rates on the rest since you will normally get hit rating somewhere.
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Postby Belarkan » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:21 am

You should notice that you'd rather head toward expertise rather than hit.

On swing:
missed: 20
parry: 94
dodge: 39
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Postby Neganur » Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:28 am

19:05'18.375 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 100 Holy. (901 Resisted)
19:05'26.040 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 220 Holy. (801 Resisted)
19:05'52.081 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 363 Holy. (750 Resisted)
19:05'58.773 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 363 Holy. (750 Resisted)
19:06'05.082 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 363 Holy. (750 Resisted)
19:06'13.003 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous was deflected by Brutallus.
19:06'55.991 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 117 Holy. (964 Resisted)
19:07'03.308 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 236 Holy. (857 Resisted)
19:07'10.726 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 235 Holy. (857 Resisted)
19:07'16.957 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 472 Holy. (643 Resisted)
19:07'24.237 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 472 Holy. (643 Resisted)
19:07'31.385 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 472 Holy. (643 Resisted)
19:08'04.730 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 235 Holy. (857 Resisted)
19:08'17.093 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 322 Holy. (750 Resisted)
19:08'23.908 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 353 Holy. (750 Resisted)
19:08'33.693 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous was deflected by Brutallus.
19:08'39.823 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous was deflected by Brutallus.
19:08'47.540 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous was dodged by Brutallus.
19:08'55.369 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 472 Holy. (643 Resisted)
19:09'01.630 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 354 Holy. (750 Resisted)
19:09'07.871 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 354 Holy. (750 Resisted)
19:09'31.195 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 429 Holy. (643 Resisted)
19:09'40.453 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 321 Holy. (750 Resisted)
19:09'48.131 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 429 Holy. (643 Resisted)
19:09'56.298 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous was deflected by Brutallus.
19:10'05.771 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 726 Holy. (Critical) (750 Resisted)
19:10'12.516 Callimar Hammer of the Righteous was deflected by Brutallus.


None of your HotR did actually miss, 5 parried, 1 dodged.
Never seen such a high amount of partial resists though. Compared to my HotR (25 hit rating, 16 expertise skill):

19:58'27.279 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1282 Holy.
19:58'34.007 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1398 Holy.
19:58'40.635 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1282 Holy.
19:58'51.293 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1384 Holy. (140 Resisted)
19:58'59.244 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 2768 Holy. (Critical) (140 Resisted)
19:59'08.635 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 2460 Holy. (Critical) (280 Resisted)
19:59'17.497 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 2306 Holy. (Critical) (116 Resisted)
19:59'25.279 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1398 Holy.
19:59'34.935 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 2563 Holy. (Critical)
19:59'43.905 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1282 Holy.
19:59'53.108 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1281 Holy.
20:00'04.121 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 2050 Holy. (Critical) (233 Resisted)
20:00'10.687 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1339 Holy. (54 Blocked)
20:00'19.502 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 2563 Holy. (Critical)
20:00'27.729 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1025 Holy. (233 Resisted)
20:00'42.262 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 2563 Holy. (Critical)
20:00'50.748 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1282 Holy.
20:00'57.088 Neganur Hammer of the Righteous hits Brutallus for 1398 Holy.


Must be a glitch, or something with the combatlog is wrong ?
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Postby Snake-Aes » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:59 am

I say failboat. 16 expertise is quite a bit
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Postby callimar » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:44 am

Hrm, Brute has been very buggy so I wonder if that could account for the strange amount of partial resists? To see what I mean about buggy look at the brute stats right before the kill and you will see where some ppl did 48k Holy Lights. Working as inteneded >.>. That night I was using rising tide and now am using unbreakable will.

Also double checked and yes my weapon skills were maxed. Ah well I guess if I'm holding agro then there really isn't too much to complain about. Thanks for the help and Snake... thanks for pointing out I got on the wrong boat :lol:
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Postby Belarkan » Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:53 am

As for HotR 20 hits isn't enough to have stats on it.
It'll mostly depend on your luck.
You got 5% critical on white hit and 42% on HoW for example.
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Postby callimar » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:04 am

fair enough but if you go to all damage done for bt then you will see that im around 15% dodge, parry, miss in BT and that is a fairly high sample size.
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Postby Belarkan » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:24 am

callimar wrote:fair enough but if you go to all damage done for bt then you will see that im around 15% dodge, parry, miss in BT and that is a fairly high sample size.


As snake-aes said, 16 expertise....
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