[10N] Tsulong

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[10N] Tsulong

Postby frontallobe » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:12 am

I'll have a bit more tomorrow but we 2 healed it because our Pally has the flu (I believe she's effin dying... it's just horrible on vent) and almost (3s) didn't get a second day phase. It's damage crazy but rolling cool downs and such makes it quite fun. Our resto druid wasn't especially happy though.

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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby daishan » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:58 pm

Was just reading Icy Veins tactics and was thinking prot pallies should be pretty strong in the day phase tank adds in Bathed in Light and do crazy healing. Anyone know if it buffs our Glyph of the Battle Healer and if Tsulong is healed by it?
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby Bellanka » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:53 am

I didn't notice Battle healer healing him, but 5-stack WoG is a nice chunk.

He is immune to LoH, also. He gets the debuff, but no heal. Puts our loH on cooldown for nothing.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby baleogthefierce » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:47 am

The healing buff from the Sun Breath only lasts a few seconds, so Battle Healer isn't going to do much if it works at all.

We spent several wasted pulls on this boss just because of the last Terror that spawns right before the transition back to night phase. Finally we started tanking the last set of small adds on the boss and just had the whole raid burn them down while we chain stunned them with Remorseless Winter/glyphed Holy Wrath. We never had a problem with the little AoE fearing adds again after switching to that strat.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby zefter » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:53 pm

When the last Terror spawns we CC Unstable Sha to focus the Terror. Then the little adds spawn just in time for the dragon to breathe on them.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby superworm » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:08 am

Has anyone tried to solo tank this? I solo-tanked Tsulong in LFR, and the damage seems managable. I just needed to rotate cooldowns for the breath.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby Darielle » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:19 am

superworm wrote:Has anyone tried to solo tank this? I solo-tanked Tsulong in LFR, and the damage seems managable. I just needed to rotate cooldowns for the breath.


It's easily solo tankable if you pop cooldowns on the breath since you can pretty much play spin the dragon and use the Sunbeams a lot.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby saif » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:14 am

Enrage can be a bit tight with 2-tanks/3-heals, but it was doable and kept the healing pretty stable throughout Night phase. Holy Priest made getting the last 15% of healing in the last day phase fairly easy - happened before I even realized it.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby Winkle » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:38 am

saif wrote:Enrage can be a bit tight with 2-tanks/3-heals, but it was doable and kept the healing pretty stable throughout Night phase. Holy Priest made getting the last 15% of healing in the last day phase fairly easy - happened before I even realized it.


Why would holy priest make this particularly easy?

Had a few attempts on this and we got close but no kill, monk heals seem to be very good for this.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby daishan » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:46 am

Monk heals are indeed very good (at least last week think they got nerfed a little)
We found having our spriest spam heal the dragon in day phase was a massive help, she'd be doing almost as much dragon healing as the holy pally.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby Belloc » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:10 pm

Winkle wrote:
saif wrote:Enrage can be a bit tight with 2-tanks/3-heals, but it was doable and kept the healing pretty stable throughout Night phase. Holy Priest made getting the last 15% of healing in the last day phase fairly easy - happened before I even realized it.


Why would holy priest make this particularly easy?

Had a few attempts on this and we got close but no kill, monk heals seem to be very good for this.

If I had to take a guess, I'd say because of Guardian Spirit (60% more healing received for 10 seconds).
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby Chronos » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:56 am

1. Sacred shield buffed by bathed in the light?

2. For solo tanking, how many breaths are there in night phase? Four? Does that night breath debuff stack or just get refreshed? If it stacks, think a plate dps could soak one? Bubble remove the debuff?

3. Guardian druid have good cds to solo tank?

4. Absorb effects dont count as healing on the boss, correct?



My new ten man is undergeared and Im looking for ways to cut corners. If we solo tanked we would probably four heal since our healers are doing more percentage to the boss individually than the dps and adds should still be okay.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby Kishandra » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:58 am

1.) Possible, but it's probably best to pick another talent and heal Tsulong instead.
2.) 4 sounds about right. 30 seconds apart and night phase lasts 2 minutes. They stack in non-LFR. A plate dps could probably soak one, bubble probably can't remove it.
3.) Not really. Why try to solo tank? Tanks do about as much damage as a dps in normal phase anyway.
4.) Correct.

You'd get much more value out of maximizing healing on this fight rather than damage. We got a monk who regularly does 80 million healing to him (in heroic mode yeah but he claims 40-50 mil without Light of Day is doable.) Other healers are able to do 30-40 mil worth of healing on him as well. Any hybrid non healer can dump 10-20 mil worth of healing per day phase as well - druids with heart of the wild are particularly good for this.

Considering Tsulong only has around 175 mil hp in 10N, planned right, you can do about 75% of Tsulong's hp worth of healing in a single day phase with 3 healers and some offspec healing, more or less trivializing the dps check.
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby Chronos » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:29 pm

Was wondering if bathed in the light would give me a buffed sacred shield to heal the boss with but I see that absorbs wont work.
Wondered about solo tanking so the other tank, a guardian druid, can hotw heal/500% tranq.
Mostly though I feel like one of the two tanks is basically wasted in day phase atm and not doing much. Anyone else think it's not a big change?
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Re: [10N] Tsulong

Postby fuzzygeek » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:17 pm

We wiped at the enrage at sub-10% several times with 3 healers. Went two healers and a higher DPS comp and beat the fight in 7:23 -- I think the enrage is around 8m?

I'd argue adding more healers isn't necessarily the way to go in this fight.
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