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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Passionario » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:31 am

KysenMurrin wrote:I still hate how long it takes to get the dust to craft things.

I caved in and bought a 40-pack bundle. Figured that now would be a good time to do that, given the recent balance changes and multiple cards being temporarily disenchantable for full price.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:02 am

I did that a long while back. Pretty much straight after I worked out that the email saying I'd been given a key for the "North American beta" was bullshit and I was automatically put onto my home region. Figured that one-off purchase was alright for a game I'm playing this much - and I'd paid the same for other games. Not planning to do it again, though.

I spent most of my early dust on Mage cards, not all of which turned out to be worth the while once I started actually learning how to play the game well.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:49 pm

After today's performance, Thrall might as well be dead to me. Malfurion's where it's at.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Sagara » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:51 pm

Closest fight in a long, long while, and absolutely awesome to win.

Paladin Mirror match, I go 2nd, and mostly control the fight into turn 12 or so, despite him throwing, in order, Rags, Guardian of Kings, and Sylvanas, when he stands at 8 Health to my 19. I got a 1-charge Truesilver Champion and a 1/1 Squire. Both our hands are empty (save for one Wyld Pyromancer that I want to keep for a potential disaster.

OBVIOUSLY, that's when he topdecks LoH. Asshole. and of COURSE he gets a Sunwalker and a Truesilver out of the deal. Ass. He OF course proceeds to stomp my Sylvanas, drop ANOTHER Sunwalker and heal himself back up for 23 against my 10. Oh. Thank the gods I draw my LoH. Then he drops Tirion :roll:

I manage to blow his table with Wild Pyro/Equal. 14 - 23, I have a Squire, he's got Ashbringer with full charge, has only one card in hand, and just went out of cards. Fatigue + Avenging Wrath brings it to 2 - 22. My Guardian of kings flips things to 8 - 22. His sword + Squire makes that 2 - 20 AGAIN.

I draw my very last card, which gives me Equality, Argent protector, Argent Commander, and Defender of Argus. He's still got one charge of Ashbringer and two Squires vs my Guardian of Kings and one Squire. If nothing hits me, I've got two turns. If something connects, I'm dead next turn. Further, I've got two turns to deal that 20 damage.

What's the solution? (yeah, it was a fairly easy puzzle, but I was stressed as all hell :D
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:27 pm

Hmm... summon Argent Commander, drop Defender of Argus onto Commander and Guardian, hit face for 12. Hope he can't somehow kill both taunts after using his squire to pop divine shield. Hope he doesn't topdeck Avenging Wrath or Hammer of Wrath.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Paxen » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:14 pm

Priest is pretty awesome. I'm still at quite low rank (win streak with priest finally got me to 18), but it just seems so well rounded. You can do spot damage, cheap minion removal, big minion removal, board wipe and keep your minions alive like no other (which gives board advantage which wins games). And that's without sick combos like buffing a Light Thingy to 24/24 or stealing your opponents big stick with Mind Control. Or stealing his best card and use it yourself.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Sagara » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:25 pm

actually, the current top priest is an insanely defensive one that tries to kill you to fatigue. Very rough to get through - you need some massive rush to get him down before he grounds himself.

Re quizz: you forgot he was already under fatigue ;-) And indeed, AC/DoA was my play (i did drop it between AC and a Squire to keep the 5 damage Guardian safe. Phew.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Andurin » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:46 am

Bah, had some bad luck in my last 2 arena drafts :( Warlock demon deck, where the only demons are 4 flame imps and 1 succubus. Got a 2 - 3 out of that. And currently am at 0 - 2 with a hunter deck that has about 3 beasts.

On the other side, i`m still enjoying the mage deck I made ^^ Mostly based on one of the mage decks from blizzcon, but without the pyro's since I dont have them... Rank 18 atm, and still winning 3 out of each 4 matches ^^
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:12 pm

No PC access or the next two days, but I got some games in this morning and managed to go up a couple of ranks. The Druid deck continues to be very strong, I won 5/6 games.

I can't remember exactly what rank I am now, either 6 or 7.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:59 pm

Back in the game after Christmas and bouncing between ranks 5 and 6. About a 2/3rds win rate at the moment, I tend to lose in matches against other Druids, and there are a lot of Rogues around giving me trouble.

I disenchanted a lot of cards (including Cenarius and Al'akir) to make myself a Tinkmaster Overspark. Swapped out Starfire for it.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Worldie » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:09 am

How do you people get so many legendary cards I don't get it >.<
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:28 am

I have five legendaries: Bloodmage Thalnos, Tinkmaster Overspark, Gelbin Mekkatorque, Sylvanas, and Hogger. Gelbin was the reward for buying packs. Hogger I opened in a pack. I've also opened Cenarius, Al'akir, golden Illidan, and Nat Pagle, but disenchanted those to make other cards. The rest I crafted myself (and it cost me a lot of good cards from classes I don't play to make Sylvanas and Tinkmaster).

Buying 40 packs, you will probably open a legendary or two.


Edit: In other news, I hate the new mage deck almost as much as Frozen Giants. Draw lots of cards, Ice Block, get your opponent to about 20 health, then Frostbolt, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, and Pyro on the following turn. If they heal up, there's antoher Frostbolt a second Pyro and some Fireballs. And if you're in danger from minions, Frost Nova.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Sagara » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:24 am

And I came back from a Christmas break wondering what exactly I'm trying to do with this game, to which I managed a resonating "not much".

I guess I'm not really the type of player for this game, as I miss quite a bit of the interaction that is ambivalent in CCG (oh, some fights I had on L5R). Players being absolutely gung-oh on building self-pleasuring decks (yes, that's a dick joke) that ignores your opponent completely tend to leave a frustrated partner (yes, that's another dirty joke).

Add to that the necessity of only allowing one player to play each turn (i.e. no reaction during the oppponent's turn) makes the entire thing feel a bit... boring? at times.

So i'll probably go back to D3 until RoS, and see if THAT catched my fancy. Else, meh, I haven't played anything on console since AC:Brotherhood, so I've got backlog AND an itch for another playthrough of either Dragon Age or Baldur's Gate.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Flex » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:31 am

Molten Giant warriors suck
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Nooska » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:24 pm

I had a weird arena game earlier today.

Did a druid (probably poorly, but had just done some duid games for quest), and played a rogue.
I was dead and the rogue just stopped doing stuff (after I said well played) - for 3 rounds, which was enough for me to clear the taunts and kill the rogue...
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:47 pm

Drafted a completely useless Ancient Watcher in Arena - nothing in my deck to activate it. Then a Priest at 3 health cleared my board of everything except the Watcher - after using Mass Dispell. :lol:

Edit: Hunter with 5 health plays Frost Elemental and freezes my 4/5 Yeti. Then he plays Spellbreaker... and silences my Yeti. :lol:
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Shamora » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:06 am

Just went 12-2 in the arena with a priest deck \o/
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:10 pm

Damn. Well done. I still can't break past 7 wins.

On the plus side I'm consistently going at least 5 now. I even did 6 consecutive arena runs without having to go back into ranked for gold. For some reason I always do worse as Mage, which is supposed to be the esiest Arena class.


I had a really fun game as Druid in arena earlier today. I coined a Master Swordsmith on turn 1 (1/3), used Mark of the Wild on turn 2 then traded (3/1 taunt), Mark of Nature on turn 3 (3/5), then droped a 3/2 and played Power of the Wild on turn 4 (now had a 5/3 and a 4/6 taunt). Totally steamrolled my opponent with a superbufed 1 drop.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:55 am

Looks like I'm ending the first Ranked season at rank 6 (thanks to a horrible losing streak today). How did you all do?
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Sagara » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:26 am

I'm probably still at 8? I guess. So how's the meta? Molten Giants still being a massive PITA?
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:07 am

At my rank, it's mostly Rogues, though also lots of Druids, mid-range Warlocks, annoying Mages, the occasional Warrior OTK or Hunter Eaglehorn/Secrets deck. Not a lot of giants except in those Warriors and some Warlocks, really.

Just been watching a stream from someone at Legendary and he was very suprised when he came up against the secrets Hunter and a Rogue playing Assassinate, so I think there's actually some big differences in meta within just a few ranks up or down (those players were matching him from rank 4).
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Nooska » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:22 pm

I think I got to rank 24... (but I'm not sure if I played enough ranked to get out of angry chicken)
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:11 am

Logged on this morning and the ladder hadn't reset. Thought that was happening on the 2nd?

Also: I'm now down to rank 8. Really doing terribly lately.
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:43 pm

I think I finally worked out how to approach the current meta. A couple of weeks ago when I first switched to Druid it was enough to play control and just throw blocks in the way of the faster decks, but since christmas I've been winning less and the last few days were hell.

It's because the Warlocks got slower, and both they and the Warriors started running Molten Giants (they've gotten pretty common since I said I wasn't seeing many). I probably should have figured it out sooner, but after a few Shaman losses today I finally got it. Shaman works pretty well. I have to keep my opponent at about 20 health, draw out the fight, use taunts to protect myself, and wait for the opportunity to bloodlust and kill within two turns (one for Warrior).

I'd already figured out that aggressive play was working better, and added Lava Bursts to my deck. I just hadn't gotten the smart play down yet. I may need more removal because of the Giants-plus-taunt move.

(To do in future: Molten Giants Shaman deck, with weapons to lower health and Windfuries. I still don't have any Giants.)
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Re: Hearthstone

Postby Flex » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:37 am

The big potential issue with a warrior Molten Giant deck is they can use weapons to lower their own health enough to get out the one turn kill.
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