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Re: The Secret World: How to get the most out of your trial

Postby bldavis » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:15 pm

GW2 dungeons are challenging...or at least hte constant repawning trash is :evil:
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Re: The Secret World: How to get the most out of your trial

Postby d503 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:19 pm

bldavis wrote:GW2 dungeons are challenging...or at least hte constant repawning trash is :evil:


GW2 dungeons are amazing if you're a table tennis fan. I can't help but express my overall letdown on the PvE content in that game, but I guess that's my fault for getting my hopes up ;)
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Re: The Secret World: How to get the most out of your trial

Postby bldavis » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:00 pm

yeah
the dungeons are a bit meh, but i love the story
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
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Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
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Re: The Secret World: How to get the most out of your trial

Postby Gracerath » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:09 pm

Oh man. This makes it MUCH more likely I'll pick this up. And the subscription perks are nice but not game breaking, unlike a lot of other cash shop perks in other games *cough*Planetside2*cough* I also like that they are setting the precedent for $5 DLC mission packs. Sounds a lot like the DDO pricing model. They are one of the few games who did that shit right. Hopefully they'll stay in that nice bite size $5 range. I loved the game setting so hard... it is a challenge to not buy this immediately. But I need to be more careful with my game purchases...

As far as GW2 dungeons, they certainly are less challenging than I thought some would be or at the very least inconsistently challenging. Some explorable paths are pretty damn easy. Others, not so much. I'm still of the opinion that it is probably the best PvE experience I've had, at least as far as leveling/exploring go.
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Re: The Secret World: How to get the most out of your trial

Postby bldavis » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:31 pm

oh god i hated doing a dungeon due to trash respawning constantly, but i am LOVING exploring and just roaming around doing w/e
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Re: The Secret World: How to get the most out of your trial

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:06 pm

So... what do you gain by still paying a sub? Or in the case of those that bought the "lifetime subscription" what benefit are they seeing, or are they just out $200?
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Re: The Secret World: How to get the most out of your trial

Postby Gracerath » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:10 pm

Skye1013 wrote:So... what do you gain by still paying a sub? Or in the case of those that bought the "lifetime subscription" what benefit are they seeing, or are they just out $200?


From the link:

New Membership Available

For those who want to get the most out of their Secret World experience we have an optional Membership available. Being a monthly subscriber, for the same cost as before, now gives great benefits. For being a member you get the following:

Time Accelerator (Clickable item which increases experience gain for defeating monsters by 100% for 1 hour, 16 hour cool-down – only usable by Members and Grand Masters)
$10 worth of Bonus Points (given out every month)
Item-of-the-month gift (given out every month)
10% discount to everything in the in-game store

The Grandmaster pack includes all these benefits and gets an additional 10% discount to everything in the in-game store, for a total bonus of 20%. So being a Grandmaster is better than ever!
Through the month of December we have a special offer where we give 30% off on the first purchase on the 3, 6 and 12 month Membership plans.
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Re: The Secret World: How to get the most out of your trial

Postby Paxen » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:16 pm

I thought they meant it when they said "no plans for F2P". Joke's on me, I guess.

Am I reading it right that this is based on GW2? Box purchase, then pay for more content instead of a sub? Tbh I think this model seems fairer, at least it fits me more. I'm playing tSW for the missions, and if I'm now going to pay €5 for each issue instead of €15 each month, well...lot of cash saved.

I can't say I really see the point of being a Member, but if you got money to spare it's not such a bad deal I guess. I'll stick with buying each issue as it is released.

It still is and has always been an awesome game.
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Re: The Secret World: How to get the most out of your trial

Postby sahiel » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:04 pm

Yeah, i'm actually interested now and downloading it, I tried the beta and it was decent, but not enough so to buy a box, pay a sub and have micro transactions as well. Now, I'll give it a chance, especially with all the extra content and the time they've had to fix bugs, etc.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby sahiel » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:03 pm

For anyone still on the fence;

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007VTVKG6/

$15 atm.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Gracerath » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:10 pm

Well, that sealed the deal. Picked it up.

So, this begs the question. How much of the game is solo friendly? I'm a dirty casual these days. Also, as far as the grouping goes, how easy is it to find groups? Is there a tool in game to help create them or do I stand around looking at chat hoping for a group? Etc.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby d503 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:30 pm

Gracerath wrote:Well, that sealed the deal. Picked it up.

So, this begs the question. How much of the game is solo friendly? I'm a dirty casual these days. Also, as far as the grouping goes, how easy is it to find groups? Is there a tool in game to help create them or do I stand around looking at chat hoping for a group? Etc.


The entire questing game is solo friendly (some are elite quests in the later zones, and harder to do unless you have a good build).

The dungeons are obviously all group, but I believe they put in LFD recently, so you should be set there.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Paxen » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:26 am

And unlike WoW the questing game is actually challenging. I wouldn't worry about it being solo-friendly, quite a few people complain that it's not a real mmo simply because there's so much you can do solo (and that there are parts you have to do solo, in solo instances).

I've always liked questing in WoW, but tSW blows it away. I've actually only done two dungeons, and one of those was two-manning the Halloween dungeon.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Gracerath » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:07 pm

I made an initial investment of points towards the Bounty Hunter deck. Of all the weapons, I like the shotgun the most and it seems to do really well with the packs of wimpy zombies in Kingsmouth.

Which brings me to another question, at what point in the game can you expect to finish the non starter decks? After clearing most zones? Some of the abilities take quite a large chunk of points to unlock.

Also, while I have two weapons (shotgun and pistol), how does swapping them work with the hotkey bar? Do I just put shotgun abilities on 1-3 and then pistol abilities on 4-7 (or however I want to distribute them) when I get them or does the hotbar actually swap over to the new weapon set? I did the whole switch weapon hotkey (default Shift + R) and nothing happened, though like I said, I don't actually have any pistol abilities unlocked yet.

God damn I love the music and setting. Rawr. The doctor guy at the start of the Illuminati area is so good. The voice acting is quite excellent.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Paxen » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:21 am

I didn't finish a deck before I was nearly done with Transylvania, but I think I could have made it long before that if I tried. But the decks aren't the ultimate builds in any way, after a while you should be able to create better builds on your own. For one thing they only have passives from two weapons, even though passives aren't limited to only the weapons you carry (my Pistol/Elemental crit/chain build suddenly became viable again after I put in the Hammer Elite passive Forged in Fire, which is massive for soloing). I only finished one for the outfit.

However, they are pretty nice templates to work towards when you're starting out. But after a while you want to find the synergies yourself.

Weapons get switched automatically as you use different active abilities, so no need to worry about that.

And totally agree on the voice acting. That and the writing is what makes the game really special.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Gracerath » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:58 am

Man, Kingsmouth has a lot of conent. I don't even think I'm 1/3 of the way done yet and I've almost filled out the basic levels of pistol and shotgun and I'll be able to start working on the next level of skills. I'm basically doing all the things and taking my time doing so. The "stealth" missions are somewhat fun. Sadly for most of the investigation missions, I just use the in game browser for every step and cheat looking at a wiki. There are a few parts I was able to figure out for myself but a lot of them rely on damn near OCD exploration. Which I'm glad others have taken the time to do for me :)

I have no idea what I'm doing with crafting. I did the tutorial missions for weapons and talisman crafting but I don't seem to be able to do much with them. Hell, it seems like 90% of the stuff I pick up I can't even take apart for their materials.

I will say that the setting is holding this game up for me, along with no sub fee. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't be tolerating the issues I've been having. Random crashes, rubber banding, lag and all the other usual suspects. Every time I close the game, I get an error box popping up for one reason or another.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Paxen » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:35 am

Gracerath wrote:Sadly for most of the investigation missions, I just use the in game browser for every step and cheat looking at a wiki. There are a few parts I was able to figure out for myself but a lot of them rely on damn near OCD exploration. Which I'm glad others have taken the time to do for me :)


But that's some of the best content there is :( Why would you want to skip all that?
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Gracerath » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:06 am

I do rather like exploring but I often miss the little details. For example, I did one last night where if you didn't read one plaque on a bridge carefully (or even at all, they can be hard to notice) I would have never completed it. Heck, I've been across those bridges several times to the other area but I generally took one of the southern ones. Not saying I wouldn't have found it eventually but there is a lot to explore and do. Like I said, I'm able to figure out a good amount on my own but in the end my time is limited and I like to be somewhat efficient. Speaking of the mission above called The Vision, I believe I did 3 or 4 of the steps on my own just by looking at the map. The final part was the plaque I missed.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Paxen » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:54 pm

The clues scattered around the map bit I can understand (the bridge had me stumped as well), but the real beauty of investigations is IMHO the bits where you have to google some obscure clue (or several before you figure out the real clue) and find some real life info that helps you solve the mystery.

I take it you're not cheating on those parts..?
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Gracerath » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:55 pm

Naw. There was one I did that sent me to a webpage that I think Funcom set up specifically for the game that had some Illuminati clues for a mission. That was neat. There was another one I did in beta that had you googling something or other using a clue for a computer password (I can't remember exactly what it was) but I haven't come across it yet in the retail game (I get distracted easily and wander off).

I think I'm maybe 1/3 of the way done with the missions in Kingsmouth, at least from the various NPC's. There are a ton of the side missions around that I end up skipping because as I said, I get too easily side tracked and I actually want to complete the thing I'm on. That reminds me.. there is a corpse under one of the bridges I was exploring last night that I need to go investigate again ....

EDIT: My wording in the last few posts is a bit contradictive. I did say I cheated on most/all but I've really only done like 3 or 4 of the investigation missions, so it isn't like I've missed out on the entire game's worth of investigations. Just a few of the starting ones and only for a few steps.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Paxen » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:24 am

Good to hear!

Have you done the Kingsmouth Code and Digging Deeper yet? (Both from Henry Hawthorne.) Those are my favorite missions in Kingsmouth.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Gracerath » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:03 am

The Kingsmouth code sounds familiar, I think I did that one. Not sure about the other but I will check for it the next time I log in.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Teloc » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:51 am

I picked this game up as well when it was on sale. I've been running around with my little Templar. I've maxed out 3 skill groups on the inner ring. As I keep switching around trying different things. Almost finished my 4th group.. I've learned all the basics of Blood, elemental, fists, and just about finishing up shotgun.

I'm only a part way threw The Savage Coast and I do enjoy the setting. I kinda cheat as well on the investigation missions, but I tend to figure it out. Then just look up the answer cause I don't feel like guessing on some parts.. The Room 13 quest with the symbols from the book is hard to read at one point and was messing me up.

I think I'm going to work towards the magus build at this point. Then branch out from there. Since a good solid build should help me progress faster than my current method of OHH PRETTY WHATS THIS DO?

Also for my bonus points I bought the speed boosts...BEST purchase ever.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Gracerath » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:30 am

I just got myself to the Savage Coast. I got up to that point in the beta as far as the main story goes so soon I'll be treading new ground. I'm excited.

As is my nature in MMO's that feature a trinity, I'm building a tank spec. Currently Hammer / Chaos and I'll be going for the Bodyguard deck. I like the suit and I've already got the points needed in Shotgun and there are lots of hammer abilities that I like. I'm making a beeline for the Forged in Fire ability. It will help a lot for soloing and it is part of the deck, so bonus.

I haven't built up the courage to put myself in the pool for Polaris yet. I've tanked for years in WoW and EQ, so I dare say I'm good at it but there is still a lot of pressure on a tank. Once I get that first one under my belt, the dam will break and it will be like old hat. Just got to get that first one done ...

I don't like the crafting in this game. Or rather, something seems buggy or inconsistent. I have an issue and maybe I'm just missing something. Is there something that tells you whether or not you can disassemble an item just by looking at its icon or mousing over it? I have so much shit I've looted that I try to disassemble but it never works. I'd rather not have to open the damn window every time. Also, my inventory is a nightmare. I finally got all my crafting materials shoved into a different bag so that helps a bit but man it is a pain in the ass to dig out the right items at a glance. The search window is a blessing but still. I'd like to just be able to differentiate them visually.
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Re: The Secret World

Postby Paxen » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:34 pm

Forged in Fire is fantastic for soloing. A lot of my earlier builds became more and more useless as I progressed through the game, but by just adding FiF they became viable for soloing again. Even my pistol/elemental crit/weaken/chain build that's totally focused on damage.

I heard that they made a lot of the items in Kingsmouth not eligble for disassembly at some point, but I don't know what items. I don't bother with them any more, when you got access to QL10 items QL2-3 are just junk.

I'm not sure if they still sell them after the pvp revamp, but a trick I used was to buy purple QL10 anima from the pvp vendor. I played a round of Fusang, and that earned me enough for 3 or so anima items. Grab the ones with the stats you want on your gear, and disassemble them. One anima yields something like 4 Pure quality runes, each of which can then be disassembled downwards to the QL you need. Very nice if you can find the glyph toolkits to give yourself the secondary stats you want.
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