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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:27 am

This is my Barb build

I have Magefist gloves with 17% Fire Skill increase and bracers with 12% fire skill increase, shoulders with 14% Overpower increase, and a Stone of Jordan with a 25% increase against elites. So against elite packs my Overpower and Furious Charge crit for well north of a three million and hover around the 4 million mark.

Another option is going with a cold build. I ran that with bracers and an amulet with bonus to cold skills before getting the Magefist.

Does anyone know if the paragon experience per level is a flat value or a curve? I keep meaning to look the experience required before and after gaining a level but haven't managed to do so yet.


Pretty sure it is a curve, there was a patch note about how Paragon levels after 500 were made steeper.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Sagara » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:00 am

Caught a lucky break with a trifecta neck and a new pair of weapons. This loadout is my boss mode, I'm still keeping Threatening Shout for trash.

I still hit a couple problems on Torment II Belial, until I realized I was being too defensive and kept hitting the enrage. Kept the same boss loadout, went all-out and taking more risks, and it went like a charm.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:22 am

Holy crap that Sun Keeper is nice. I'm assuming the 30% is the max roll on it?

I finished up last night at Paragon 199, goal was Paragon 200 before RoS so I'll make that. I've also gotten 3 pieces of the Immortal King set. I really want semi-permanent Call of the Ancients.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Sagara » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:06 pm

Flex wrote:Holy crap that Sun Keeper is nice. I'm assuming the 30% is the max roll on it?


Huh. Just checked, it actually is the max. Fun thing is, I only kept it because of that stat, it felt fairly lackluster otherwise, so I nearly skipped it... Dumb me :oops:

Which reminds me I still have a legacy Echoing Fury (0.25 extra attacks, 9%ASp, 1,1k dps) that might actually out-perform the Bonesaber.

Meanwhile, all I'm aiming for is clear Torment 2 before RoS :lol:

Quick, late EDIT: Welp, Torment 2 is clear, and I'm seriously considering dropping the rage builder for one of the big-ass CDs (prob the Freeze Earthquake).

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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:02 am

Managed to snag 4 piece Immortal King set, it is pretty much game breaking.

You still need to dedicate a slot to Call of the Ancients but with the rune that has them generate 3 fury for you when they attack you swim in the stuff. Ended up going back to a Boulder Toss build with Furious Charge - Stamina and Overpower with the rune to generate fury for each person hit. A 202 Fury Boulder Toss crits for about 16 million on elites for me.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:37 pm

Reaper of Souls impressions

- Act 5 story, need to do it when not on a skype call with someone so I actually have audio and can pay attention to it.
- Crusader. Lots of fun. Leveled solely via Adventure Mode with her so far. Fighting style is very unique and not just another melee class.
- Adventure Mode. I dig the bounties system, goal oriented farming is nice. I got trolled with a "Clear the Crypt of the Ancients" bounty though. I'm not sold on Rifts as a thing, sure they ahve good rewards but they feel lacking in something.
- Also both Adventure Mode and Rifts have a much darker color than normal, it bothers me because I like the artwork in D3 and want to see it.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:20 pm

Really a fan of adventure and rift :)
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Sagara » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:26 am

I want to keep progressing through Act 5 on my barb, but since I'm playing him with my wife's wizz, we can barely log an hour a day.

Well, at least my wizzie is blasting through vanilla content, and should probably be at Act 5 somewhere this weekend...
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:42 am

I noticed a loading screen tip saying Barbarians and Monks take 30% less damage than Crusaders, Wizards, WDs and DHs. Haven't read much around this expac, any reason Crusader doesn't get the same benefit as the other melees? It specifically listed Crusader among those who didn't, else I'd be tempted to think it was just an oversight.

EDIT: As far as I can tell from Googling around, the reason they don't get the same reduction is that the class already has so many defensive skills/passives. Haven't been able to find any blue confirmation, but I guess that's plausible.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby fuzzygeek » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:54 am

My computer loads diablo so fast I can't read the tips :( /fwp

I played through Act V last night. Not sure I'm going to bother playing any more. Adventure mode is fun, I've heard? I've heard people raving that RoS "fixes" D3 the way LoD made D2 awesomesauce, but it seems to boil down to Loot 2.0, with greens and browns everywhere (in the one playthrough I found 3 greens and 4 browns).

Is there much more than the gussied up Skinner box? The gameplay doesn't seem much changed from kite-kite-kite-kite-kite-go back and pick up things you killed offscreen. (I play a DH; just found the other classes boring. Haven't tried Crusader yet, to be fair).

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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:03 am

If you're kiting as a rule your damage is too low for the difficulty you're playing.

As far as I can tell from Googling around, the reason they don't get the same reduction is that the class already has so many defensive skills/passives.


The vast majority of the crusader's kit is built around using a shield, a good shield will add 30%ish toughness.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:38 pm

Costs me about 1 million gold in just gem combining to reforge some of my items. :(
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:09 pm

I do agree the cost of combining new gems is excessive.
Atm it'd cost me 1 million just to combine the gems to craft a necklace.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:46 pm

Thorns are so broken right now. They scale with your main stat now so what you see listed isn't what they hit for. Crusaders have a rune for Iron Skin that increases Thorns damage by 200% during Iron Skin. You can take down an elite group that uses poison or desecrate in a blink of an eye.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Sagara » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:57 pm

Flex wrote:Thorns are so broken right now. They scale with your main stat now so what you see listed isn't what they hit for. Crusaders have a rune for Iron Skin that increases Thorns damage by 200% during Iron Skin. You can take down an elite group that uses poison or desecrate in a blink of an eye.


I needed somthing to motivate me to try the Crusie, thanks :)

Meanwhile, I just hit a freaking wall on the way to Uzrael, either my defenses crashed as I levelled, or the damage on mobs scaled to a fuckton and a half. Got a "mere" nightmarish/poison enchant/Frozen Orb Ghastly Seraph that handed my ass to me like there's no tomorrow. His poison trail damage was stupid huge.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Schroom » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:35 am

so after 2 chilled out evenings where I explored everything while leveling and enjoying the story I finished killing Malthael yesterday.

@ 60 I started at Torment 4 as I was farming Torment 5 in the old Pre-patch.

every time I dinged I had to reduce difficulty ^^ the scaling wasn't even funny xD

finally I finished on Master.

great story tho. I love it a lot. the tons of events is amazing.

can't wait to start adventure mode and my crusader tomorrow.

btw here is my barb http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/schroom-2977/hero/35793292 never mind the built. I used it only on Malthael. (one try to see mechanics, change built, kill first try with this built :P )
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Kai » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:49 am

its good that the bosses are finally not pushovers. did malthael the first time leveling on 62 or so as I started on 55 when exp was released. felt reasonably easy. then I did her again in a bounty yesterday on 70 and almost died with 3.5m toughness.

not sure how blizzard got me to pay the price of pretty much a complete new game for that one act and the bounty system though ...
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:37 am

I found lvl 65+ bosses in general much much harder than pre65. Expecially act V bosses (but not only them) have METRIC CRAPTONS of hp, making the fight difficult as there's enrage timers and you can't just "outlast" them
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Schroom » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:31 am

well there are players with > 1 mio DPS unbuffed already if you check Diabloprogress ^^
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Kai » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:45 am

I wish there was some sort of damage breakdown/meter by skill though. like, what does that DPS tooltip mean for me as a monk? my build's main dps is lashing tail kick with the fire rune. charge into a group of mobs, pull them in, use that twice, stuff dies. obviously that has nothing to do with my auto attack dmg values as the tail kick crits for 1.5m or so.
now I found an amulet that would boost my tooltip dps by 15.5%. but the one I currenlty use has +19% fire dmg done. both lashing tail kick and mantra of retribution (which I assume are 80% of my dmg output and ALL of my burst dmg) are fire dmg. pretty tough to compare that stuff without knowing how much dmg you actually deal with what ability.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:41 am

What about a tiny bit of math? :P

Current dmg -19% (fire dmg bonus) + 15% (flat dps boost from new item) = new dmg, so you will lose out 4% dmg on fire dmg skills but gain 15% on everything else.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Kai » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:26 pm

not very meaningful if I don't know how much damage each of my abilities do percentage-wise, is it? especially for the dmg-throw-back-mantra there's no numbers out there at all.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:15 pm

There is also the "how" of it increasing your damage. Like if current neck lacks crit a crit neck may give you a lot of damage but wont actually result in hitting harder when not critting.

In general elemental damage us the best stat for damage increases. Skill increases are also really good.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:31 pm

Sure would be nice with some World of Logs-esque information for this game.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Shamora » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:01 pm

Kai wrote:not very meaningful if I don't know how much damage each of my abilities do percentage-wise, is it? especially for the dmg-throw-back-mantra there's no numbers out there at all.


You can see the percent of each ability if you enable Advanced Tooltips in the options. Options > Gameplay > Interface

Also as far as I understand it the listed DPS number is the average amount of damage you do at 100%, basically auto attack. So if an ability does 500% weapon damage then it will do 5x the listed damage on average per second. However I don't think that is completely correct for non activated abilities like the reflective mantra since I don't believe weapon speed has any effect on how often it would do damage and the DPS number does take weapon speed into effect
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