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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby halabar » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:18 am

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rodos wrote:Do you find that there's a consistent "exchange rate" between the Gold and RM AH, or are there certain items that fetch more on the RMAH? As in, does a 1m item sell for about $10 regardless of what it is, or do people get excited to buy a weapon upgrade, and so spend $15 on a 1m crossbow, whereas a 1m chest piece would be lucky to sell for $2?

There really seems little rhyme or reason to a lot of it, some obviously great items sell well, but so do some things I think are pretty crappy, other times an amazing item just won't sell... it's almost impossible to gauge and it seems to change every few days which ends up making it a lottery just to see if you priced your item at the right level for that day. =/


On that note, just sold a lvl 46 192 dps sword that I bought for 47k for $7. Only downside is I need a new lvl 46 weapon, lol. Also flipped 100k of purchases for 400k. Perhaps should have listed those items in the RMAH.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Winkle » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:49 am

rodos wrote:Do you find that there's a consistent "exchange rate" between the Gold and RM AH, or are there certain items that fetch more on the RMAH? As in, does a 1m item sell for about $10 regardless of what it is, or do people get excited to buy a weapon upgrade, and so spend $15 on a 1m crossbow, whereas a 1m chest piece would be lucky to sell for $2?


There's not a consistent exchange rate because people are buying items and not commodities or gold directly.

Although the gold sellers do give you a good indication. Approximately $2/£1.5 per million atm.

Generally items cost more than this on the RMAH because real $$$/£££ is more abundant than in game gold, especially for the people using the RMAH.

If you have a lot of igg or want to speculate you can sell up to the RMAM before the commodities go live on RMAH (speculated as next Tuesday for US) and then buy stuff back a lot cheaper a few days later as the IGG AH and RMAH balance out.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby PsiVen » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:26 am

The market will make a LOT more sense once gold trading is opened. Right now you're much better off selling certain things on the RMAH for multiple reasons:

- Almost anyone shopping RMAH can convince themselves to buy an item, but on the GAH they must already have the money
- Buying igg is currently dangerous/awkward, so fewer people are buying into that side of the market
- People getting rich in-game are likely to have sizable funds in their balance too
- Due to poor arbitration, prices don't necessarily match the exchange rate

Personally I think the only reason gold trading isn't in yet is that they plan to mass-ban bots the same day. The gold price will launch back up to ~$5 due to the sudden beheading of major sellers, then get driven back down as they rebuild.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby aureon » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:51 am

I really hope so, i've still got 60m gold.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby rodos » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:02 pm

PsiVen wrote:Personally I think the only reason gold trading isn't in yet is that they plan to mass-ban bots the same day. The gold price will launch back up to ~$5 due to the sudden beheading of major sellers, then get driven back down as they rebuild.

I think Blizzard might be trying to get a handle on the natural Gold/USD exchange rate so they can set up the UI parameters sensibly. IIRC the gold selling UI in beta enforced a minimum $ price per 1000 gold (I'm guessing that will go to 1m gold on live). If that amount it too high nobody will ever sell gold on the RMAH.

Commodities, being fungible, should give a pretty good indication of what the real exchange rate will be.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:01 pm



Reads like a troll article.

I wonder if he hates the fact that a spider in WoW drops http://www.wowhead.com/item=39226
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby rodos » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:48 pm

Flex wrote:


Reads like a troll article.

I wonder if he hates the fact that a spider in WoW drops http://www.wowhead.com/item=39226

Well, it does imply that you're picking up her leg and using it as a club. How something with an exoskeleton has a femur though, I'm not so sure.

Also, I love the follower/nephalem banter in D3, even if it does get repetetive. It's actually the only thing tempting me to level up more than one character -- to hear the different voice acting.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:13 am

Some of the follower dialogues are actually pretty hilarious if you ask me :P
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby sahiel » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:53 am

Flex wrote:


Reads like a troll article.

I wonder if he hates the fact that a spider in WoW drops http://www.wowhead.com/item=39226

All in all it's a pretty weak article, however, it does strike a note with me personally where he says "There is a moment playing Diablo when it hits you. Why am I still playing?".

Sadly, for me, the game was nowhere near as much fun as the original Diablo which I played for years, a few weeks of 2 and I was bored to death of it, I'm not sure exactly what was so different between them but whatever it is, it's what kept me interested the first time around :(
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby halabar » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:06 am

The fact that I find the AH PVP more interesting than the game says something...
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:21 am

The only thing still keeping me going (I only play maybe once a week, mind) is getting to the end of the story. I'm just at the start of Normal Act 4. It's just a bit too repetative, lots of the same. I agree with the first half of that guy's article, but not the second half where he gets onto silly nitpicking.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby benebarba » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:31 am

sahiel wrote:
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Reads like a troll article.

I wonder if he hates the fact that a spider in WoW drops http://www.wowhead.com/item=39226

All in all it's a pretty weak article, however, it does strike a note with me personally where he says "There is a moment playing Diablo when it hits you. Why am I still playing?".

Sadly, for me, the game was nowhere near as much fun as the original Diablo which I played for years, a few weeks of 2 and I was bored to death of it, I'm not sure exactly what was so different between them but whatever it is, it's what kept me interested the first time around :(



not being terribly familiar with D1 & D2... was the overall design the same 'play the same game over and over, enjoy collecting loot and smashing face'?


I think on the front of 'log on occasionally and make some monsters explode' it does quite well - the first play through the story even was neat (though I thought the ending was kinda lame - sort of a 'well, you're responsible for all this but the end has nothing to do with you. KTHXBAI, hugs, Tyrael.'). But my level of caring dopped off a cliff after clearing the normal version. I'm playing a bit further only to get something different from WOW and to get the rest of the dialogue from the NPCs.

It seems like the intent was that you either wanted to play the same game, what, 4 times on different difficulty levels or you wanted to explore PC and NPC backstory and dialogue. The 'random dungeons' don't seem so random, and being able to explore NPC backstory on a single character also seems to shorten some of that.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby halabar » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:39 am

sahiel wrote:Sadly, for me, the game was nowhere near as much fun as the original Diablo which I played for years, a few weeks of 2 and I was bored to death of it, I'm not sure exactly what was so different between them but whatever it is, it's what kept me interested the first time around :(


Sprinkle in boatloads of D3 hype, and you might have you answer... plus the fact that what, 10 years has passed?
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:49 am

To be honest if you're not doing inferno you're not playing the game, you're in exploration mode.

You aren't competing with anyone or held to schedules so it is a pretty solid game for just playing for an hour and getting some fun. I still get a kick out of the physics engine and barbarian attacks.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:11 pm

Flex wrote:To be honest if you're not doing inferno you're not playing the game, you're in exploration mode.

That's my big beef with the game. I've played 20 hours just to get through acts 1-3 normal, and I'd have to go through the entire game twice more to reach Inferno. I keep hearing about how it isn't really "the game" until you get up there - but that's like saying to someone here's the game, but first we'll tell you the whole plot while you spend 3 days clicking the mouse before you can start playing it...
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Gab » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:17 pm

halabar wrote:The fact that I find the AH PVP more interesting than the game says something...


And what is that? The you personally didn't find the game fun?

Although I do agree to some extent that the game is getting old pretty quickly; my game time has already been cut down to a fraction of what it was at launch and logging on and playing is more out of boredom than desire. Which was not the case with Diablo 2... I was definitely drinking the kool-aid prior to launch and for the first few weeks but it's rapidly wearing off.

I really don't think it's the AH or the repetitive grindy game play for me. I enjoy both of those aspects actually. For me I think it's the class design and the leveling/skilling system. I guess I would have preferred Diablo 2 2.0 over Diablo 3 when it comes to character advancement.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby halabar » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:27 pm

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halabar wrote:The fact that I find the AH PVP more interesting than the game says something...


And what is that? The you personally didn't find the game fun?


Or that I'm a goblin at heart... :D

Here's a question for all those that got D3 from the AP... Would you rather have Blizz give you D3 like they did, or add another Ruby Sanctum to WoW to tide us over until the expac?
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:29 pm

halabar wrote:
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halabar wrote:The fact that I find the AH PVP more interesting than the game says something...


And what is that? The you personally didn't find the game fun?


Or that I'm a goblin at heart... :D

Here's a question for all those that got D3 from the AP... Would you rather have Blizz give you D3 like they did, or add another Ruby Sanctum to WoW to tide us over until the expac?


humoring a silly premise for a question:

I've gotten more enjoyment from Diablo 3 than any single raid in WoW.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:33 pm

halabar wrote:
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halabar wrote:The fact that I find the AH PVP more interesting than the game says something...


And what is that? The you personally didn't find the game fun?


Or that I'm a goblin at heart... :D

Here's a question for all those that got D3 from the AP... Would you rather have Blizz give you D3 like they did, or add another Ruby Sanctum to WoW to tide us over until the expac?

How in the hell did Ruby Sanctum "tide" anyone over? You likely killed it the first day it came out, farmed it a couple times and/or did heroic if you were capable (or if you could even be bothered), then went back to regular raid hours in Icecrown.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby sahiel » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:40 pm

Flex wrote:To be honest if you're not doing inferno you're not playing the game, you're in exploration mode.

You aren't competing with anyone or held to schedules so it is a pretty solid game for just playing for an hour and getting some fun. I still get a kick out of the physics engine and barbarian attacks.

Finishing Hell was a bit of a drag, just from 'the same content' over and over point, not difficulty, but I played Inferno for quite a while, up to Act III, and that was what I think finished me off. Playing with friends was all that kept me going that long and it was around that time most people off my friends list started burning out and stopped playing, I think I have 2 people out of an original 50 odd now who still play, which certainly added to the lack of interest as once you're in Inferno you benefit hugely from a solid group you can play with regularly rather than random pugs.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:29 pm

Flex wrote:To be honest if you're not doing inferno you're not playing the game, you're in exploration mode.

What makes inferno that much better than the rest of it? It's still the same story, the same zones, same mobs (with a few new abilities.) Is there some magic that happens that makes people so much more interested in the game once they hit inferno?
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:06 pm

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Flex wrote:To be honest if you're not doing inferno you're not playing the game, you're in exploration mode.

What makes inferno that much better than the rest of it? It's still the same story, the same zones, same mobs (with a few new abilities.) Is there some magic that happens that makes people so much more interested in the game once they hit inferno?


It is when the meta game starts. It is similar to my feeling towards people complaining about the relative difficulty of WoW end game PvE content who don't actually partake in it.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:11 pm

The meta game being... when you start farming for gear? I don't know... it just seems to me like it would equate to farming final tier heroic modes in WoW... once you've done so, their isn't much point in continuing (since the gear won't help you in the next xpac, unless another Sunwell to Naxx happens...)

If it's to get "world firsts" well, that's long gone, unless you manage it on hardcore (I believe that's still open?)
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Fridmarr » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:31 pm

I think if D3 was a brand new game instead of being built on a very successful legacy, it would probably be deemed mediocre at best. The comments about flies dropping armor are fairly stupid, that's just standard genre fare among umpteen million things that aren't logical in fantasy worlds. That said D3 certainly feels to me like a pretty lazy cash grab. I don't feel like it's a bad game (certainly not the worst game ever), but it's not very compelling to me either.
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