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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Shyrtandros » Tue May 15, 2012 6:50 am

Between my guild and friends there were about a dozen of us all on for launch. I was one of two that were able to get on and make characters within the first 5 minutes. I didn’t realize that character names are not unique and anyone can have the same name. Which resulted in me trying to reserve names and I ended up getting booted off server.  Luckily I was back on and playing within 15 minutes. I consider myself EXTREMELY lucky, I had guildies who didn’t get on at all after 90 minutes of trying before they gave up and went to bed. Almost all of my friends were on within an hour or so of trying.

Game play wise I was really enjoying the game. I like that when you group with a friend you can click their banner in town and teleport directly to them. We REALLY liked the independent loot system; it results in A LOT more loot when you kill bosses. Each person can get several magic or rare drops from a big boss vs. just the 2 or 3 total you would get from D2.

Two of us played for the 90 minutes or so completely solo and just churned out leveling and quests and we were both 7 & 8 by the time the others got on. I rolled an alt for group play to see the difference in leveling and was astonished.

While D2 scaled spawns and difficulty based on 1-8 players in the game - Diablo 3 does a much better job of it with their 1-4 player scaling. The experience differences for groups are CRAZY. Within 2 hours the 4 man group was able to PASS my friend who was solo leveling and he never slowed down or stopped for anything. If you kill several enemies in one “encounter” you get bonus experience. If you kill multiple mobs with one ability you’ll get more bonus experience. So you can see that when hordes of enemies are spawned from multiplayer games if you for example spam an AoE cone and get 20 kills in 1 click you’re experience bar is going to explode.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Tue May 15, 2012 8:35 am

I'm feeling extremely paperish on my Witch Doctor, while my friends playing Monk or Barbarian don't look like taking damage at all. Am I doin something wrong?

I'm 21 btw.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Shyrtandros » Tue May 15, 2012 9:18 am

Worldie wrote:I'm feeling extremely paperish on my Witch Doctor, while my friends playing Monk or Barbarian don't look like taking damage at all. Am I doin something wrong?

I'm 21 btw.


Part of the game design is that all melee characters have a set percentage of bonus defense since ranged don't have to "get in the thick of it".
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Tue May 15, 2012 9:20 am

One of the first Barbarian passives is 25% increase in health globe drop chance and 100% increase in effectiveness, they also get Revenge which has a chance to activate when taking damage and heals the Barbarian for each target it hits.

Looking at all of the MMO mindset being transferred to this game on the forums is amusing. What's the best build for..., what about tanking? 2H, dual wield or 1H and shield?
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Shyrtandros » Tue May 15, 2012 10:06 am

Flex wrote:One of the first Barbarian passives is 25% increase in health globe drop chance and 100% increase in effectiveness, they also get Revenge which has a chance to activate when taking damage and heals the Barbarian for each target it hits.

Looking at all of the MMO mindset being transferred to this game on the forums is amusing. What's the best build for..., what about tanking? 2H, dual wield or 1H and shield?



They're going to get a rude awakening and I'm going to love it...

On the other hand.. the DOTA & LOL community will reign supreme.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby sahiel » Tue May 15, 2012 11:55 am

Shyrtandros wrote:
Worldie wrote:I'm feeling extremely paperish on my Witch Doctor, while my friends playing Monk or Barbarian don't look like taking damage at all. Am I doin something wrong?

I'm 21 btw.


Part of the game design is that all melee characters have a set percentage of bonus defense since ranged don't have to "get in the thick of it".

Tooltip just said "Monks and Barbarians take 30% less damage than Wizards and Witch Doctors" so... I expect it'll be 30% :)

Seems like a huge amount but i'm sure it's been tested.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Tue May 15, 2012 11:58 am

My Barbarian leaped onto a bridge covered with the corpses of my slain foes sending them hurdling in all directions. Several long seconds later in the background a corpse fell silently in the chasm below me since the force of my leap flung it high into the sky.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Tue May 15, 2012 2:18 pm

This Belial guy is giving me pain. Is there a way to actually avoid his smash on the ground? Seembs to hit me even if i move away from it.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Nikachelle » Tue May 15, 2012 4:14 pm

Bah, there's no D3 client download under my battle.net account. Time to log a ticket...
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Skye1013 » Tue May 15, 2012 4:16 pm

Only thing I'm not liking right now is that you can only have one ability from each section active at a time. Am I just misremembering being allowed to have more than that on D2? And is there a quicker way to switch them besides the skills tab?

Playing a Witch Doctor atm, lvl 7, and it would be nice to be able to have both Grasping Hands and Firebats useable...
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Tue May 15, 2012 4:32 pm

They intend you to have 6 abilities always available, and be able to change them at any time but at a price. If you change an ability, that ability incurrs in a cooldown of like 20 seconds.

So yea, you are supposed to face every fight with only 6 abilities, but you can change abilities and runes between fights.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby tinalt » Tue May 15, 2012 5:54 pm

Skye1013 wrote:Only thing I'm not liking right now is that you can only have one ability from each section active at a time. Am I just misremembering being allowed to have more than that on D2? And is there a quicker way to switch them besides the skills tab?

Playing a Witch Doctor atm, lvl 7, and it would be nice to be able to have both Grasping Hands and Firebats useable...


If I understand you right, you want to go into your options and turn on "Elective Mode"

That will let you "build" your character the way you want. If you want nothing but defensive abilities on your toolbar, you can use all of them. If you want noting but resource generating abilities, you can do that too. It allows you to play around with different builds, for lack of a better term.

If you don't have elective mode turned on, you can only have one ability of each type on your bar.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Skye1013 » Tue May 15, 2012 6:04 pm

Will this "unlock" the other slots? Because right now I only have left/right-click, 1, and Q (for potions.)
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby tinalt » Tue May 15, 2012 6:24 pm

No, the other slots open based on level. you should get the 2 slot around level 9 i think, then 3 at 12 or 13, and the last a few levels after that. All the elective mode does is make it so you can put any ability (that you've unlocked) in any of your slots.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Winkle » Wed May 16, 2012 4:24 am

Worldie wrote:This Belial guy is giving me pain. Is there a way to actually avoid his smash on the ground? Seembs to hit me even if i move away from it.


Yeah Belial seems to be a bit of a douche when it comes to melee.

I managed to avoid his large aoe ability but dodging his other attacks seemed harder. I survived on normal but can't imagine it being to much fun on harder difficulties.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Gab » Wed May 16, 2012 5:17 am

Flex wrote:My Barbarian leaped onto a bridge covered with the corpses of my slain foes sending them hurdling in all directions. Several long seconds later in the background a corpse fell silently in the chasm below me since the force of my leap flung it high into the sky.


Yeah... Barbarian is insanely fun and they did a great job with the physics. Played a Barb to 15 after getting a WD to 7 and I think I'm going to shelve the WD for awhile. Barb is just way too much fun.

Of course it's not tanking in the sense of a traditional trinity system but you sure can take a lot of the pressure off your ranged dps buddies with stuns, knockbacks and the grip ability.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Levantine » Wed May 16, 2012 6:58 am

The tuning is much better than the time I spent in beta, but I can't wait to get out of normal. The way I'm playing I should be dead every 10 minutes, as it is nothing has killed me or even come close. Between Crippling Wave, Resolve, Mantra of Evasion and Breath of Heaven (Circle of Scorn because fuck wasting an animation for solely defensive purposes in normal) I teleport in with Dashing Strike and proceed to hold shift click.

Sew visceral and amazing~

Also my friends suck so I've been playing solo a bit and the Enchantress is hilarious. I got ambushed by a knockback big thing in the second act... She charmed it and it killed all of the mini creeps that came with it. I was all like :|
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Wed May 16, 2012 8:08 am

Winkle wrote:
Worldie wrote:This Belial guy is giving me pain. Is there a way to actually avoid his smash on the ground? Seembs to hit me even if i move away from it.


Yeah Belial seems to be a bit of a douche when it comes to melee.

I managed to avoid his large aoe ability but dodging his other attacks seemed harder. I survived on normal but can't imagine it being to much fun on harder difficulties.


I tried my standard Barbarian setup and died horribly so I went with a Frenzy primary/Hammer secondary, dagger, shield, with pain immunity, intimidating shout, leap+armor and a few health generating passives and he went down fast on normal.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm

I say holy plot turning batman at the end of act 3 o_O
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Arkesh » Wed May 16, 2012 5:55 pm

Worldie wrote:I say holy plot turning batman at the end of act 3 o_O



Yeah that caught me off guard too.

Just finished nightmare difficulty on my wizard, woo! I hate Mortar-Jailers, Mortar-Wallers, Illusionary-Wallers and anything with shields >.< Died more to those combos than any boss fight.

Get to start on hell tomorrow :D Hopefully by then some friends will have caught up after I'm finished at uni. Soloing sucks :(
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Wed May 16, 2012 5:57 pm

Leveling as caster class gets much much faster/easier when you party with melee classes.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Skye1013 » Wed May 16, 2012 6:50 pm

Worldie wrote:Leveling as caster class gets much much faster/easier when you party with melee classes.

I've got the Templar helper, which actually helps quite a bit (by keeping mobs off me, dunno if he's doing anything in regards to damage), so I can only imagine it would just get better with an actual player.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Fivelives » Thu May 17, 2012 5:05 am

I can't get the templar to keep any attention at all off my wizard. So I just figured to hell with it and built an exploding wizard, since everything's going to be on me anyway.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Fenrìr » Thu May 17, 2012 6:03 am

I just try to position myself in such a way that the mobs have to run through my Templar so I can stand a little behind him with my Demon Hunter.
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