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Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:44 am
by fafhrd
So apparently, unlike enchanting, your can blacksmith upgrade the same weapon several times. So I can stop putting off crafting and upgrading my daedric weapons thinking "let me just do this one more thing to boost my blacksmithing skill a bit more before I do it".

Sadly tonight's a WoW raid night and it looks like the damn new instance is coming out tommorow, so I probably can't play much this week >=(

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:41 am
by Aubade
fafhrd wrote:So apparently, unlike enchanting, your can blacksmith upgrade the same weapon several times. So I can stop putting off crafting and upgrading my daedric weapons thinking "let me just do this one more thing to boost my blacksmithing skill a bit more before I do it".

Sadly tonight's a WoW raid night and it looks like the damn new instance is coming out tommorow, so I probably can't play much this week >=(


Ahh I could've told you that =3

And, the gear that you get from "Finding the assassin of old" Didn't really impress me that much O.o.. I'll stick with my dragonscale/Daedric.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:13 pm
by Aubade

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:09 pm
by Levantine
So I discovered that the mage armor perk is kinda important for a full mage character. Probably should have figured that out a little earlier. D:

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:25 pm
by Fivelives
Huzzah!

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:08 am
by fafhrd
I decided to use some grand soul gems to make some +blacksmithing gear, and some +archery gear. Bow went from ~100 damage per hit to ~300 damage per hit without full archery perks o.O. Pre-upgrade without the archery gear on, same bow was 60 damage.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:43 am
by Donut
Incase anyone was wondering, apparently the amount of alchemy skill you get per potion craft is dependant on the value of the potion you craft (ex: giant's toe and wheat make me like 1500 value potions with multiple effects and give me half a bar of skill). Fortify x potions seem the most valuable while basic poisons and healing potions are the least. I haven't gotten up to the purity perk but I'm not sure how that will interact with potion price. This definitely isn't true for blacksmithing and I am pretty sure it isn't for enchanting but I'll have to check.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:45 am
by cerwillis
I accidentally came within one quest of finishing the main dragon storyline, and I can say that the quests and dungeon leading up to the final encounter were the best imagining of a dungeon crawl that I've ever experienced, be it D&D, Wow, or a Forgotten Realms book. The word EPIC is close but not adequate.

Upon realizing that I was at the last save point before the final battle, I reloaded a few jumps away and I will be delaying it a bit, until I'm a little higher than 28. Apparently I need to stop and smell (pick) the flowers. Spoiler Alert!!! The final questline is called: Elder Knowledge

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:45 am
by Alacia
cerwillis wrote:Spoiler Alert!!! The final questline is called: Elder Knowledge

Spoiler alert!: There's quite a few quests left after that one.:
Agreed on that dungeon though, still need to make another visit to fully explore the place.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:04 pm
by Fivelives
@)#*(%&)@#(*%&

Ze PS3 patch. It does NUFFINK!

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:44 am
by Aubade
Sad day. 230 hours on my 360 save, still going strong =3.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:32 am
by Thalia
Aubade wrote:Sad day. 230 hours on my 360 save, still going strong =3.


Yep I dont know where there is an end in sight for me lol. I'm barely starting to hit my second city, Riften, and I still havent finished all the quests in Whiterun, my first city. I think it's cuz I'm seriously trying to not miss anything it's so fun. Think I'm going to go get the Mage's guild quest line started though, gonna leave Dark Brotherhood towards the end, I don't want to kill any NPC's before they give me some of their quests.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:34 pm
by amh
Thalia wrote:(...) I don't want to kill any NPC's before they give me some of their quests.


Haha, really admirable. ;)

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:40 pm
by Shamora

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:58 pm
by Aubade
Thalia wrote:
Aubade wrote:Sad day. 230 hours on my 360 save, still going strong =3.


Yep I dont know where there is an end in sight for me lol. I'm barely starting to hit my second city, Riften, and I still havent finished all the quests in Whiterun, my first city. I think it's cuz I'm seriously trying to not miss anything it's so fun. Think I'm going to go get the Mage's guild quest line started though, gonna leave Dark Brotherhood towards the end, I don't want to kill any NPC's before they give me some of their quests.


None of the Dark Brotherhood Quests make you kill anyone with a quest =]

Also; I'm not sure if I want to keep going or if I'm stuck in radiant story. I've champed every guild, and I have 9 Daedric Artifacts >.< I think I might do all the Dragon priests though

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:45 pm
by Thalia
Well from what I read you have to kill some guy who you have to turn in a quest item too, and I did his quest so maybe there is.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:57 pm
by Aubade
Thalia wrote:Well from what I read you have to kill some guy who you have to turn in a quest item too, and I did his quest so maybe there is.


The only way that's possible is through radiant story, And if you're doing those like crazy, then yeah you'll eventually kill someone you need for A quest. but I don't think it's that big of an issue since none of them are actual side/story quests. I think though that you're thinking of an optional killing, without spoiling anything I think that the guy you're talking about is one of those things where you CAN kill him. But you don't HAVE to. (The Dark Brotherhood Quests are. EPICCCCCCC.) Srsly amazing.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:13 pm
by Thalia
Aubade wrote:
Thalia wrote:Well from what I read you have to kill some guy who you have to turn in a quest item too, and I did his quest so maybe there is.


The only way that's possible is through radiant story, And if you're doing those like crazy, then yeah you'll eventually kill someone you need for A quest. but I don't think it's that big of an issue since none of them are actual side/story quests. I think though that you're thinking of an optional killing, without spoiling anything I think that the guy you're talking about is one of those things where you CAN kill him. But you don't HAVE to. (The Dark Brotherhood Quests are. EPICCCCCCC.) Srsly amazing.


oooh okay so killing some people is part of the radiant story from dark brotherhood which is totally separate from their main story line, got it thanks!!

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:09 pm
by Aergis
Actually, can you even kill someone who has a major quest? Don't they just get back up again?

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:16 pm
by sahiel
Aergis wrote:Actually, can you even kill someone who has a major quest? Don't they just get back up again?

That's been my experience, and trust me, I really tried to kill some of them...

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:16 pm
by Delphineas
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-personali ... r4=popular

#1 is best. Read it to my friends on vent.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:11 am
by fafhrd
sahiel wrote:
Aergis wrote:Actually, can you even kill someone who has a major quest? Don't they just get back up again?

That's been my experience, and trust me, I really tried to kill some of them...


This has actually been really annoying, I wish you could turn it off. Sometimes I just want to kill everyone in a village or camp, but unfortunately is just about *EVER* SINGLE ONE there's an NPC or two that just won't die.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:43 pm
by sahiel
fafhrd wrote:This has actually been really annoying, I wish you could turn it off. Sometimes I just want to kill everyone in a village or camp, but unfortunately is just about *EVER* SINGLE ONE there's an NPC or two that just won't die.


Absolutely and it's actually been a major fact of why I've put the game down currently. After the 'main' quest, if you talk to the SPOILER Blades NPCs they ask you to kill someone, someone who I actually really liked and was quite sympathetic to. Not only were the arrogant, cold and dismissive of him they literally said "Kill X or you can get lost. We won't have anything more to do with you until then."

Fuck. You.

I am not their personal assassin, especially not to someone I liked. I probably spent an hour or so trying to find ways to kill them after that. Throwing them off mountains, beating them repeatedly to death, setting them on fire, surrounding them with monsters, nothing worked sadly. :(

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:07 am
by Passionario
There is already a mod that allows you to kill invincible children. I'm sure that it can be adapted to include other immortal NPCs.

Re: Skyrim, first impressions (limit spoilers, please!)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:32 am
by amh
Felix the Peaceful Monk - Skyrim in pacifist-mode.