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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Skye1013 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:32 pm

So... the Galaxy class, Imperial Star Destroyer, DSN, etc. are there for reference, or are they actually playable ships?
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Arnock » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:56 pm

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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Skye1013 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:28 pm

I was about ready to ask for an invite... as if this thread hasn't slowly been drawing me into the game anyway :lol:
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Tev » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:38 pm

Forgot the comparison to the death star!
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Invisusira » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:02 pm

so uh

apparently the ROTJ death star is fucking massive.

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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Delphineas » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:49 am

Bigger is better?
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Dantriges » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:16 am

Yes he is. Don´t know why, though. The first one was perfectly capable of destroying a planet. Ah well, think some of the fans compared it in relation to other objects. Sci FI fans put more effort into that than theorycrafters in finding rotations.

Would beinteresting to compare it to the Independance Day ships. Some physicist stated that these ships never needed weapons to destroy cities, they could have done it via air pressure or so. Don´t know the exact statement, I´ve heard it years ago and could misremember. But it was about that their sheer size is already desctructive.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Tev » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:23 am

I never realized that there was a size difference between the 2, I guess I always assumed the second was going to be like the first, just with, you know, grates over the exhaust ports.

Sidius musta had shitty engineers. "So yeah, they blew up the last one by flying a craft hat was too small for our defenses to hit and dropped a bomb perfectly down an exhaust port. This time were making it even bigger with exhaust port big enough to fly a ship into, that should solve the problem". Ok, admittedly I don't think they were technically exhaust ports in the RotJ, but it still begs the question, wtf were they there.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby aureon » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:54 am

it's still not as big as moon, though!
our moon has a 400k km diameter.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Treck » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:45 am

400k km?
More like 4k km (earth has 13k km ish)
400k km is about the distance between the moon and earth.

If invis pic is scaled right, the Deathstar mark 2 should be about 600 kilometers in diameter.
It still takes 6-7 Deathstars lined up to meassure the size of our moon tho.

Also in the movies they say its a "small moon", but even then its barely half as big as the smaller moons (worth mentioning) in the solar system.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Dantriges » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:54 am

IIRC they were flying through the holes in the Deathstar, where construction was still going on.

Fully functional battlestation meant, it could fire its Laser, the gaping holes were supposed to be covered by the shield. sounds a bit dumb that they didn´t cover the way but well with Darth vader and Sidious breathing on your neck to get the Laser working, the construction chief made some compromises. And well perhaps he didn´t have much choice anyways but to work in a certain manner, like finishing some sectors first to house the construction workers and crew to increase workspeed.

In the end, that thing wasn´t finished so yeah it had some gaping holes in it but the project leader probably never thought that he had to activate that thing before it´s fully assembled.

So they had no time to close the gaps and they had them because there was still construction going on. Perhaps they hadn´t built in the propusion system. It seemed to me that the Deathstar was pretty stationary. Would explain why there were holes down to the core because well, these holes were supposed to be filled with machinery linked to the core.

And well, no idea if they could just bolt some armor plates there. Probably not Considering SW firepower, a halfassed rushjob would result in a protection comparable to tinfoil. Or well, how do you cover such a big hole in no time.

So the stuid thing Sidious did, was sitting in a half finished capital ship dependant on an external source for its protection.

Ok, the real reason for the holes were so the Millenium Falcon could fly through, but well we want to keep the suspension of disbelief. :wink:
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Invisusira » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:15 am

Honestly, looking at how massive the second Death Star is, I'm not surprised the Falcon was able to fly through it... considering it's about half the size of a 747.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby aureon » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:21 am

i actually copypasta'd the first thing from wikipedia, which as referring to the ORBITAL stats.
its diameter is, indeed, about 3500 km.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Arnock » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:02 pm

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that they flew through the construction zones in the rotj death star, the idea was to trick the rebels into thinking that it was unfinished and completely defenseless until


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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Leuthas » Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:53 pm

Well it's official, may as well add me to the list of EVE players.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Fridmarr » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:47 pm

Fridmarr wrote:The thing is, it can be a lot of time. I don't generally have a salvager on the ship I'm doing the mission with, so I have to come back to the spot which costs quite a bit of transportation time. The question is, would the ISK per minute be faster just grabbing the next mission? I think so far for the early level missions for me salvaging hasn't been worth it, but I hear that changes with the L3 missions.

I need to correct myself. I've been doing some L2 missions and on one of them I killed around 25 ships, nearly all had loot and they were very spread out.

I decided that I might as well grab my salvager since it was in the same system and the time cost to go get it was going to be negligible compared to how long it would take me to loot all of those ships. The salvaging yield was significantly higher than the L1 missions and even better than the loot that was in the ships. I got around 2million ISK just from selling the salvaging materials for that mission.

It did take me like 20 - 30 min, but that's still pretty efficient ISK for me. After that I decided to invest in a few tractor beams to speed up that process, in fact if the mission isn't too many jumps from my Agent hub, it'll be faster looting/salvaging in my salvager than my slow tractorless cruiser. I may not bother if it's just a couple of ships, but generally these missions have enough rats to make it worth I think.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby aureon » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:50 pm

it kind of depends on the type of rats, too.
For example, Serpentis loot/salvage sucks, and Angel rocks.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Delphineas » Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:11 am

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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Invisusira » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:37 am

I'd be surprised if most L1 missions even let you use that ship!

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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Malthrax » Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:18 am

i'ma have to join up with you guys next time, now that I've got my Myrmi fitted out and can contribute to teh pewpewage.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Kelaan » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:04 pm

How can you tell what "level" missions are? (It's likely I just haven't gotten that far yet.)
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Delphineas » Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:09 pm

Roman numerals to the right of the agents name.

And Invis, I guess that website goes off current active ships when you make the picture?
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Invisusira » Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:54 pm

Nah I just thought putting two Noctises (Noctium?) in the pic would be weird, and you were planning on flying the Rohk before.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Delphineas » Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:08 pm

Rokh is so much smaller than the Apoc. :(

Yeah, flying from jita to ashokon was fun with 400 mil in my cargo hold. Forsook autopilot, was a lot of ships on gates. O.o
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space [EVE]

Postby Malthrax » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:29 am

Delphineas wrote:Rokh is so much smaller than the Apoc. :(


Apoc has extra cargo space for slaves and religious paraphernalia, that's why.
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