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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby cakeftw » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:34 am

You guys are horribly tempting me to come back to eve here and train myself up for a hac (tech two assualt cruisers) and blast some fools.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:11 am

lol yeah cerwillis, character creation is pretty nuts. Even Nika got excited when she saw all the makeup options, and she hates space games.

I'm about halfway through training for T2 frigates atm. Can't wait for T2 cruisers, there's a lot that look pretty fun. Cruisers V is pretty painful to train, though.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby cerwillis » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:15 am

I think I have to install this on my new Macbook, work be damned.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:31 am

Newbie tip: Don't put off training for Afterburners and Microwarpdrives. I did and holy hell once I actually got them, boy did I regret taking so long to do so. Makes a HUGE difference.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby cakeftw » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:51 am

What frigates you training to use invis? I've never really liked flying frigates in pvp, was always a case of "KILL THAT BASTARD TACKLE" and 20 drakes popped me
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:32 am

Assault atm, although I'll probably get into interceptors and covert ops pretty quick as well.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:11 pm

ok when I read the subject I really thought this thread was going to be about Warhammer 40K.

i am disappoint
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby sahiel » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:05 pm

Sabindeus wrote:ok when I read the subject I really thought this thread was going to be about Warhammer 40K.

i am disappoint

Well, the demo for Space Marine is available for download on Steam if that's any consolation?

I've pondered trying EVE a few times, but given how much I was addicted to playing the AH in WoW I have a feeling that EVE might possibly be the end of my life as I know it, plus, I'm still wary about how you actually 'fly' the ships since I hate anything even remotely related to actually manually flying a ship (flight combat/sim games are my kryptonite).
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:06 pm

well, there IS a ship called the Paladin and it DOES use lasers

so the thread title is totally legit.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby cerwillis » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:08 pm

sahiel wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:ok when I read the subject I really thought this thread was going to be about Warhammer 40K.

i am disappoint

Well, the demo for Space Marine is available for download on Steam if that's any consolation?

I've pondered trying EVE a few times, but given how much I was addicted to playing the AH in WoW I have a feeling that EVE might possibly be the end of my life as I know it, plus, I'm still wary about how you actually 'fly' the ships since I hate anything even remotely related to actually manually flying a ship (flight combat/sim games are my kryptonite).

You select a waypoint and click "Warp to within 0 meters" and then for combat there is an option to "stay at X distance" but don't trust what i say, I'm still looking for my REND button.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:11 pm

On flying of ships: think Diablo in space.

"wat" you say?? Yes, it's all click. There's no flight-simy manual controls, which kinda threw me for a loop (a.... barrel roll?) at first. However, after the first couple hours, I quickly realized that there really was no way the game could have worked. And flying the larger ships with a joystick would have been... weird.

So yeah, navigation = double click in space to go fly in that direction. You can also right click any object in space (ships, stations, stargates, etc) and "approach" (fly towards), "orbit" (at whatever distance you want) or "keep at X meters." "Approach" becomes "warp to" if you're far enough away. You also have a throttle bar on the bottom of your screen if you want to fly at less than full speed.

sab you should totally play eve
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Arnock » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:59 pm

Is there anything done in eve outside of ships? I saw someone post a screenshot aboard a space station of some sort, but also mentioned there was no point to it, is there any non-ship gameplay at all?
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby cakeftw » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:10 pm

Arnock wrote:Is there anything done in eve outside of ships? I saw someone post a screenshot aboard a space station of some sort, but also mentioned there was no point to it, is there any non-ship gameplay at all?

Not really, although CCP are making a fps for the ps3 iirc that directly influnces the eve world
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:38 pm

Yeah, gameplay is all in ships atm. You can walk around in stations, but there's no real point to it yet. CCP is planning on making stations more interactive, I think.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Nikachelle » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:04 am

Invisusira wrote:lol yeah cerwillis, character creation is pretty nuts. Even Nika got excited when she saw all the makeup options, and she hates space games.

I fail to see how "makeup options on a character selection screen" has anyyyyyything to do with space games!
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:33 am

i get the feeling you would also lke the character creation in fallen earth nika

prob not the gameplay but at least the creation part
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Hrobertgar » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:11 am

I looked at EVE last night. It is very tempting as world-PvP is one of the things I truly miss after I transferred from a RP-PvP to a PvE WoW server. Its just that I'm raiding on 3 toons right now: my healer has 2 Raggy kills, my tank will be working on Raggy tonight, and my mage will probably get to Domo this weekend. Picking up a new game, I'm wondering when I would play it for a non-trivial amount of time.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:34 am

As someone who has gone from a PvP to a PvE WoW server, I can wholeheartedly tell you that the absolute freedom of EVE brings back a lot of good old-school pre-BG PvP memories, and is definitely one of the reasons I like this game. Even in high-sec, where you're pretty much safe, just that notion that anything could go down at any time adds another level of excitement - one that WoW sorely lacks. As Shamora said, penalties instead of restrictions.

And the real-time skill training means you set your own pace; you can play the game as much or as little as you want and you'll still be progressing your skillset. Again, brings back old vanilla memories; hitting level cap didn't mean you hop right in to endgame raids. You progressed through dungeons, MC, BWL, Naxx. When you saw that guy with his full T3, you knew what that meant; you knew the time that had been put in. Sort of the same thing here; when you see someone flying around in one of the specialized T2 ships, you know they've put in months of training just to be able to fly that particular ship.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:18 am

i d-loaded EVE last night, and so far im enjoying it.
i had to log off at one point or i would have stayed up all night playing.

i like the graphics, and the playstyle is interesting (esp after playing 3 yrs of wow)
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:19 pm

Protip:
If the game is taking forever to log you in at "Authenticating," you should empty EVE's cache.

Escape -> Reset Settings -> Clear all cache files.

This will cause EVE to reboot so don't, like, do it in the middle of a fight or something.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:23 pm

Actually, I'm just gonna update the OP with protips and prolinks.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Shamora » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:19 pm

Figure I would throw these in here for those new to the game.

http://evemon.battleclinic.com/

EVEMon is a great tool that you run on your computer that helps you plan out what skills to use and will even alert you when a skill is done (Although less important since they added a short skill queue). It also contains a skill, ship and item browser.

Also I used the Eve Fitting Tool to simulate setting up various ships. Usefully for finding out what you can fit on a ship without having to actually buy the items in question.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.as ... dID=548883

Here is an example. This is a pic of how I had my old Drake setup:
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:54 pm

On that note, Mac users, you can get Mac EVE Tools and pyfa:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.as ... ID=1096971
http://www.evefit.org/Pyfa/Installation
They're a character skill planner to EVEMon and a fitting tool similar to EVE Fitting Tool, respectively.

Added links to both in the op!
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby alayire » Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:02 am

eve is a great concept .. and awesome game really. I had loads of fun back when I used to play it. I started out as a carebear PVE .. missions only in empire space. after a while of reaching lvl 4's, the game got boring a bit so I decided to try some 0.0 spice. I've been in Angel space, Sansha space and lastly Gurista's Venal. I had full Ammar, Minmatar and Caldari BS V and when I say full, I mean full skills + support + gunnery + missile + full electronics (minus ecm and eccm part) engineering and mechanics.

and then the game just died out on me. Everything was just too slow, pvp turned into a boring snooze fest. But the saddest thing was .. it was just taking up so much of my time. The game itself starts out by not demanding too much from you. but over the time, the more time you invest in the game, the more you benefit from it and just spirals from there ending up sucking you in. the instant I realized I wasn't playing it, but I was living it .. I pulled the plug. but that's just me, other people might see it differently.

anyhow .. Invis I think you forgot to mention one of the most important aspects of the game: the economy is completely player driven. Not only that, but there are skill paths for those that do not want to pilot ships and kill others. it has an industry, scientific and trade side to it completely player driven with skill trees to back that up. the market is totally free. wow AH goblins would have a field day in Eve, but also might meet their makers, because I've personally met Eve players that were economic majors in real live who played the game as trader taikoons.
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Re: pew pew laser paladins in space

Postby Invisusira » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:03 pm

To be fair, "stuff getting boring and demanding too much of you; becoming a job instead of a game" pretty much describes what can happen with any MMO.

But yeah, the economy is pretty cool. There're no straight up "vendors," per say; everything takes place on the market. NPC vendors do their buying through the market, same as players. (You can still sell stuff instantly, there are "buy orders" and "sell orders" for items on the market.)

The fact that you really can play any way you want - including non-combat routes like mining, shipping, trading, manufacturing and what have you - really adds a whole different side to the game.
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