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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:14 am

Levantine wrote:Greatsword mesmer is so much fucking fun omg. No idea what I'll be using for close range though. I'm thinking maybe sword/torch could be interesting.

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i forgot they can use torches
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby aureon » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:00 am

to be honest, a rollback was probably more appropriated.
Character deletion, perhaps. permaban seems heavy.
72h+char deletion should've been the upper end.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Gracerath » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:29 am

Apparently they are doing a one time appeal for this event only. You have to delete all the items you got via exploiting and somehow delete the currency you got (no idea how to delete currency) after they reinstate your account and if its not done within a reasonable amount of time, that will be that and you'll be perma banned.

I expected them to ease up a bit but I wasn't going to get overly upset about it. Don't exploit, don't get banned. It is that simple.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Pruke » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:18 am

I would like to see them add more bank space.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:03 am

This morning there was a widely-publicized, newly-introduced exploit in which specific cultural weapons were selling for one-thousandth of their normal price.


How would one know that this is an exploit and not some random one off special bonus?
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:17 pm

Flex wrote:
This morning there was a widely-publicized, newly-introduced exploit in which specific cultural weapons were selling for one-thousandth of their normal price.


How would one know that this is an exploit and not some random one off special bonus?

if you see the price listed as one thing, buy asn item and notice that your currency level didnt change that much, and proceed to go oh hey this is cool! must be a special! and buy 150 of said item....

yeah, that makes one wonder
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:19 pm

bldavis wrote:
Flex wrote:
This morning there was a widely-publicized, newly-introduced exploit in which specific cultural weapons were selling for one-thousandth of their normal price.


How would one know that this is an exploit and not some random one off special bonus?

if you see the price listed as one thing, buy asn item and notice that your currency level didnt change that much, and proceed to go oh hey this is cool! must be a special! and buy 150 of said item....

yeah, that makes one wonder


I'm too lazy to read about a game I don't care about so the item in question was listed as X but sold for a lot less than X?
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Arkesh » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:24 pm

Flex wrote:
This morning there was a widely-publicized, newly-introduced exploit in which specific cultural weapons were selling for one-thousandth of their normal price.


How would one know that this is an exploit and not some random one off special bonus?


I'm guessing you've not played the game. The green weapons from the early (level 10-20 say) karma vendors cost a few hundred karma. At level 40 they cost 9800 karma. There's just no way that anyone could think that the level 60 yellow weapons were meant to be 21 karma. Anyone buying them knew what they were doing.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:35 pm

Arkesh wrote:
Flex wrote:
This morning there was a widely-publicized, newly-introduced exploit in which specific cultural weapons were selling for one-thousandth of their normal price.


How would one know that this is an exploit and not some random one off special bonus?


I'm guessing you've not played the game. The green weapons from the early (level 10-20 say) karma vendors cost a few hundred karma. At level 40 they cost 9800 karma. There's just no way that anyone could think that the level 60 yellow weapons were meant to be 21 karma. Anyone buying them knew what they were doing.


What was the listed price? If it was 21 Karma being banned in anyway for that is, IMO, complete overreaction. If it was selling for less than what it was listed at bans are borderline to me as well.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:48 pm

if it was just one or 2 items, i would agree
but i have heard of some of the ppl buying several hundred items, so they knew what they were doing, and thus bans were perfectly fine

should it have been so many permabans? prob not
but for those that grossly exploited should be banned
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:55 pm

bldavis wrote:if it was just one or 2 items, i would agree
but i have heard of some of the ppl buying several hundred items, so they knew what they were doing, and thus bans were perfectly fine


If the listed price is what it was sold for they did absolutely nothing wrong though.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Fridmarr » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:15 pm

Also a permanent ban for a game that is only 5 days old isn't that big of a deal.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:26 pm

Flex wrote:
bldavis wrote:if it was just one or 2 items, i would agree
but i have heard of some of the ppl buying several hundred items, so they knew what they were doing, and thus bans were perfectly fine


If the listed price is what it was sold for they did absolutely nothing wrong though.

i agree, if it was sold at the listed price (of 21 karma)
if that is the case, than by all means WTF A-Net?

for those that are confused, karma are kinda like JP
you get them from doing "hearts" which are basically filler content between dynamic events, as well as dynamic events themselves
from PVE at low levels, you have gold (same copper, silver, gold levels as wow) and karma

my engineer is only 28 so i dont know about other currency at higher levels
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Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:34 pm

We live in a society where people born on third base constantly try to steal second, yet we expect people born with two strikes against them to hit a homerun on the first pitch.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:38 pm

imho no, but it should still be reported as a query just because that seem REALLY cheap
(my 28 can by 3 of them at least)
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:43 pm

bldavis wrote:imho no, but it should still be reported as a query just because that seem REALLY cheap
(my 28 can by 3 of them at least)


Right. Apparently that's exactly how the Karma vendor happened. Really cheap, listed really cheap, so people bought it. So yea, I'll stand by my initial hunch.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:49 pm

if that is the case, i agree that it is a bit heavy handed and should have been 24-72 hr bans only
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:51 pm

bldavis wrote:if that is the case, i agree that it is a bit heavy handed and should have been 24-72 hr bans only


That's too harsh for me. Item removal and if they have any form of decent back end tracking system profit removal.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Era » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:55 pm

They only banned people excessively buying items, I believe. Some people tried to excuse saying they only bought 1 or 2, forgetting that developers can see exactly how many they bought. >_>

I bought a staff that was underpriced, nothing happened to me.

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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:02 pm

Banning players for the developer's mistakes isn't something I'm keen on.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:07 pm

Flex wrote:Banning players for the developer's mistakes isn't something I'm keen on.

same here, as long as they dont exploit said mistake
1 or 2, sure remove the items
1 or 2 hundred, there is something going on...
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Fridmarr » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:11 pm

bldavis wrote:if that is the case, i agree that it is a bit heavy handed and should have been 24-72 hr bans only

I don't know I think expecting people to second guess something like that is a bit much.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:59 pm

thats why i say temporary bans for those that bought more than one
if you have looked at weapon costs at all, you should have realized they were low
if not, well losing access to the game for a day and all the extra items you bought will show you

maybe i am just too much of a stickler for rules, but i mean cmon....lvl 60 weapons for less karma than a lvl 1 gets for a heart?
my level 5 ele has over 600 karma already
if they truly were 21karma....i would have gone wtf, why are these so cheap and opened a ticket just to be safe

im not saying perma ban everyone who bought one, i am saying perma ban those that obviously exploited and didnt report it
temp ban those that didnt report it and may have bought a few not knowing
maybe 24 hrs if they did report it after they realized, and 48 or 72 if they didnt report it at all and bought more than just a couple
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:52 pm

The true kicker, botters get 3 day bans vs these permabans for something that is ArenaNet's own fault.
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Re: Guild Wars 2

Postby bldavis » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:05 pm

Flex wrote:The true kicker, botters get 3 day bans vs these permabans for something that is ArenaNet's own fault.

which is something i do not agree with at all

i say you get caught doing something against ToS and EULA, you get banned
the mass exploiting of a dev fuck up is perma ban imho, but the same goes for botting

if botting only gets you 72hr ban, than make that the same thing for this
after all it is still launch, bug will be found
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Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
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