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What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Linguist » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:13 am

My friends and I want to try for server first (85). At the moment, we're on a bad server, it was better when we played on it during vanilla/BC/Beginning Wrath, but not anymore. The ratio is 1:4 for every Alliance to Horde, so it'll be more trouble questing than instancing we think.

Anyways, this is our setup:

-Rogue -3.5k DPS (He's getting geared again also)
-Mage -8k DPS
-Warrior DPS -8k DPS
-Druid heals
-Pally Tank

We want to try to do this with no CC for trash. Is this possible? I've been watching http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-of- ... ation.html but this guy really isn't using CC. I mean, some light CC isn't even possible. We are going for 0 CC. Just AoE DPS.

Is this possible with my crappy gear? I just got back after a long hiatus, so I'm in hateful~furious gear for my Ret set (Slowly getting wrathful), and meh for my tanking set. I mean, I haven't tanked since the beginning of Ulduar to be honest. So much has changed.

My stats for my tank set are as follows:

37.4k HP unbuffed
23k armor
Dodge - 20.49%
Parry - 15.99%
Block - 21.00%

It's pretty bad, but still. I want to know the BARE minimum to tank without CC on trash or even just tank the bosses in general.

http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-of- ... ation.html

That seems to me, that I might not need CC if my gear is good enough. All I need to know now, is what kind of gear do I need?
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Palisade » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:12 am

I'd be interested in this as well. I'm not going for any server firsts, but I am likely going to be farming instances at first instead of questing.

My gear is a mix of Nax 25 and Badge gear.
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby kaanman36 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:13 am

Why not just learn to CC?
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Palisade » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:17 am

He doesn't have that much CC to work with. Sap & Sheep is all. And aoe DPS will go faster, which he needs to aiming for server firsts
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby degre » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:34 am

Palisade wrote:He doesn't have that much CC to work with. Sap & Sheep is all.

Not much to work with? In a 5men sap and sheep are all you need.
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Palisade » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:58 am

degre wrote:
Palisade wrote:He doesn't have that much CC to work with. Sap & Sheep is all.

Not much to work with? In a 5men sap and sheep are all you need.


But is that all you need for these new instances? And do you REALLY need them? IE, are we going to be camping Trade LFG Mage & Rogue for CC just to run these instances?
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby pacientKashenko » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:31 am

AOEing on 2 or 3 mob packs wont get you very far, very fast, like i heard.
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Dantriges » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:44 am

2 cc in a 5 man is quite ok. Ok the last one dps could also be a cc class. Perhaps the healer, too but unless you use a shaman, druid roots are the best cc you get unless from the healer you are in an instance with undead and sheep wouldn´t work then. Or you have hex from a resto shaman.
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby dmok » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:05 am

Palisade wrote:[...]Trade LFG Mage & Rogue for CC [...]

Or a hunter, or a shaman, or a ret pally, or a druid ...

Lots of options for CC classes in instances now.
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Mcduffie » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:08 am

When I was playing my warlock in BC, I would use two CC's on my own. Banish, seduce, fear kite, whatever. Don't get stuck in the mentality of "Only mages and rogues can CC." It's horribly untrue.
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Palisade » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:14 am

Forgot about locks. Been sooo long since I played my own, or needed CC. Fear can get messy though, Banish and/or seduce is usually cleaner.
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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Malthrax » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:28 am

Palisade wrote:Forgot about locks. Been sooo long since I played my own, or needed CC. Fear can get messy though, Banish and/or seduce is usually cleaner.


Shit, man... Bro-lock can fear kite one mob, banish one, seduce one, and DPS-kite another with CoEx.

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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Palisade » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:30 am

Malthrax wrote:
Palisade wrote:Forgot about locks. Been sooo long since I played my own, or needed CC. Fear can get messy though, Banish and/or seduce is usually cleaner.


Shit, man... Bro-lock can fear kite one mob, banish one, seduce one, and DPS-kite another with CoEx.

All mages can do is sheep and QQ.



I've only ever met one lock who could actually pull that off. And she did, often. Then she traded her lock in for a mage in Wrath.

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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Zalaria » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:41 am

Palisade wrote:Forgot about locks. Been sooo long since I played my own, or needed CC. Fear can get messy though, Banish and/or seduce is usually cleaner.


Not if they have this!


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Re: What gear is needed for the first couple of instances?

Postby Palisade » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:44 am

Nice glyph!

Does Fear have diminishing returns on NPCs or just PCs?
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