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Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby PingZing » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:49 am

I'm not sure how much use this is, but I figured if I had it, I might as well post it. I'm willing to bet somebody will at least find it interesting. Mostly I was just using it to figure out what Reckoning's uptime was like in an instance.

So I ran a Throne of the Tides (the Vashj'ir 80-82 5-man) as Prot with this spec. I didn't take Sacred Duty because it appears to be broken at the moment. I took Reckoning because I was curious to see how good it was. I didn't take Hallowed Ground because with Consecration sitting at a 30s CD/10s duration, it didn't feel that useful. Still on the fence about both Reckoning and Hallowed Ground, really.

Anyway, here's the log: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/oea8x74hw89murka/details/3/

I cut out the last 5 minutes or so of the log, because that's the Ozumat fight, and near the end it grants you this huge damage buff that was skewing the number averages way out of whack.

If anybody's got questions, let me know. I've still got the raw .txt log if anybody wants it for whatever reason.
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Sabindeus » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:27 am

Cool stuff! Thanks!

First question: What mainhand weapon are you using?
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Sabindeus » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:34 am

An interesting thing I noticed!

Number of Crusader Strikes total: 120
Number of HotRs total: 24
Total HoPoWx3s gained from this: 48
Number of ShotRs total: 44

So that's VERY close to one ShotR per 3x HoPoW! well done

Of course this is probably meaningless since HoPow from HotR is broken in this patch
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Arianne » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:54 am

So Vengeance doesn't show up in WoL parses? Or is it broken in current Beta servers?
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Marblehead » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:57 am

Arianne wrote:So Vengeance doesn't show up in WoL parses? Or is it broken in current Beta servers?

Vengeance works just fine. It just isn't recorded in the combat log.
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby PingZing » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:22 pm

Sabindeus wrote:Cool stuff! Thanks!

First question: What mainhand weapon are you using?


The [Prototype Chemical Applicator]. Or for those at work:

One-Handed Mace
391 - 727 Damage
2.60 Speed
+65 Strength
+98 Stamina
Item Level 272
+43 hit rating
+43 crit rating

Sabindeus wrote:An interesting thing I noticed!

Number of Crusader Strikes total: 120
Number of HotRs total: 24
Total HoPoWx3s gained from this: 48
Number of ShotRs total: 44

So that's VERY close to one ShotR per 3x HoPoW! well done

Of course this is probably meaningless since HoPow from HotR is broken in this patch


Yeah, I know for sure that I screwed up the rotation a couple of times. Broken HotR makes it very hard to be consistent on AoE pulls, and that's also the reason there are so few uses of Inquisition.

And yes, Vengeance works just fine, it just doesn't show up in the combat log at the moment. With the damage text-above-heads broken, I can't really give you an idea of how it feels right now I'm afraid.
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby tlitp » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:33 pm


Maimed as it may be, is still there :
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[00:58:33.926] Erisan hits Mindbender Ghur'sha 1447 (O: -1)
[00:58:34.192] Mindbender Ghur'sha hits Erisan Parry
[00:58:35.411] Erisan hits Mindbender Ghur'sha 1298 (O: -1)

[00:58:44.770] Erisan hits Mindbender Ghur'sha 1084 (O: -1)
[00:58:45.614] Mindbender Ghur'sha hits Erisan Parry
[00:58:46.286] Erisan hits Mindbender Ghur'sha 1240 (O: -1)

[00:59:17.739] Erisan hits Mindbender Ghur'sha 1377 (O: -1)
[00:59:17.755] Erisan hits Mindbender Ghur'sha 1335 (O: -1)
[00:59:18.692] Mindbender Ghur'sha hits Erisan Parry
[00:59:19.333] Erisan hits Mindbender Ghur'sha 1219 (O: -1)
[00:59:19.380] Erisan hits Mindbender Ghur'sha 946 (O: -1, B: 405)

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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Pizbit » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:47 pm

20-29% uptime for reckoning eh? Nifty.
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Sonic » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:30 am

Not bad. I'd like to know what your to block % is at your current point. I don't have much mastery But I'm hitting liek 44-45% atm with HS up. I can imagine 55% easy going into raids and higher in the later tiers. Meaning reckoning should have even more uptime. Assuming they don't butcher the mastery for us.

I'd love to try tanking an instance but I think I'll wait till HotR works properly again.
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby PingZing » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:21 am

27% without Holy Shield up, 42% with. And that's without reforging anything. It feels to me like point-for-point Mastery is weaker than Dodge or Parry, but if they make it give more block chance then...well, we'll get to unhittable very quickly, and that's just plain overpowered.

It is a dilemma.
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Fetzie » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:38 am

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/69jhox5rrp55lqw1/

WoL of a BRC run, me in http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... k&n=Fetzie this gear.

note that I only found out that ShoR can only be used if CS is used, the HP from HotR does not work.

the text file can be found zipped at http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/phil/tans ... 082010.zip

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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:46 am

PingZing wrote:27% without Holy Shield up, 42% with. And that's without reforging anything. It feels to me like point-for-point Mastery is weaker than Dodge or Parry, but if they make it give more block chance then...well, we'll get to unhittable very quickly, and that's just plain overpowered.

It is a dilemma.


Keep in mind we're capped at 83 now and the rating conversion curve is incredibly steep.
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Sonic » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:46 pm

True we need to hit 85 to get final conversion rates. But I'm a bit opmisitic. Parry and dodge will be nowhere near as high as LK, if we get "Deathwing Raidiance" heads will roll. So having a decently high block seems reasonable. It would keep melee damage intake on a steadier level and blizz can just use magic damage as the panic burst damage.
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby PingZing » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:24 pm

Sabindeus wrote:Keep in mind we're capped at 83 now and the rating conversion curve is incredibly steep.


That's true. And given that we have Mastery Rating which converts to Mastery which converts to Block Chance%, I suppose there's plenty of room for tweaking.
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Re: Throne of the Tides WoL Parse

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:31 pm

PingZing wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:Keep in mind we're capped at 83 now and the rating conversion curve is incredibly steep.


That's true. And given that we have Mastery Rating which converts to Mastery which converts to Block Chance%, I suppose there's plenty of room for tweaking.


Yeah, it wouldn't be entirely out of the question for our Mastery Skill to provide 0.5% block chance instead of its current 1%, but I am sure Blizz is waiting until they have L85 content ready to make such tweaks.
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