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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Rasmfrackn » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:18 pm

I expect if you haven't raided at 80 and are just leveling through from WotLK zones, you're going to have a hard time but it'll be do-able 1 on 1. (Just bring a little food and spec for leveling not for "max dps"... so, self-healing talents and the like.) If you pull extras, that's where it gets dicey with raid epics. I would expect you'll get a pretty decent set of new 278-285 greens pretty quickly in hyjal or vashj'ir, since you won't have to compare it to raid epics with slightly worse stats but gems to make up the difference.
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby tlitp » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:33 am

This post seems interesting. I'd like to see several data sets from PTR :
I. naked; report race, base Str&Agi, dodge/parry chance
II. equip several items with Strength, but lacking parry rating; report total Str, parry chance
III. equip several items with dodge rating, but lacking Agility; report dodge rating&chance
IV. equip several items with Agility, but lacking dodge rating; report total Agi, dodge chance

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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Yelena » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:30 am

tlitp wrote:This post seems interesting. I'd like to see several data sets from PTR :
I. naked; report race, base Str&Agi, dodge/parry chance
II. equip several items with Strength, but lacking parry rating; report total Str, parry chance
III. equip several items with dodge rating, but lacking Agility; report dodge rating&chance
IV. equip several items with Agility, but lacking dodge rating; report total Agi, dodge chance

Thanks.

Edited my original post.

I used two sets of gear. Each set started with all pieces for the initial point, then removed a piece from top down for each subsequent point. I didn't have an abundance of Agility gear, fair warning.

Gear set 1, used in points II & III:

Gear set 2, used in point IV:

  • I. Draenei, Str: 152 / Agi: 87, Dodge: 5.33% / Parry: 5.00%
  • II. Str: 847 / Parry: 8.77%
    • 745 / 8.25%
    • 667 / 7.83%
    • 564 / 7.30%
    • 425 / 6.54%
    • 322 / 5.96%
    • 254 / 5.57%
  • III. Dodge Rating: 694 / Dodge: 18.50%
    • 621 / 17.40%
    • 519 / 15.78%
    • 451 / 14.65%
    • 284 / 11.29%
    • 157 / 8.76%
    • 73 / 6.97%
  • IV. Agi: 362 / Dodge: 10.43%
    • 215 / 7.80%
    • 192 / 7.37%
    • 122 / 6.02%
    • 107 / 5.73%
    • 99 / 5.57%
    • 90 / 5.39%
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby beornus » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:33 am

Mea culpa if this has been addressed somewhere but I haven't seen it - the scaling of emblems for gear has changed dramtically. The 60-95 EoF we are spending now to the 1500+ we will be spending of the newer emblems indicates a major change. Are the number of emblems we get that much more per instance or can we expect to have to grind a LOT more raids before we can buy new gear?
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Flex » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:34 am

On the PTR I was getting like 16 Justice Points per boss kill, or maybe 11.
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:50 am

Flex wrote:On the PTR I was getting like 16 Justice Points per boss kill, or maybe 11.


normal or heroic?
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Flex » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:59 am

Klaudandus wrote:
Flex wrote:On the PTR I was getting like 16 Justice Points per boss kill, or maybe 11.


normal or heroic?


Heroic.
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Chicken » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:09 am

I've also heard some reports here and there that newly copied characters are getting much more favorable Emblem to Justice Point conversions than Blizzard announced. 11-12 Justice Points per Emblem is what I've heard some people mention. There's a couple of threads about it on the official PTR forum.
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Flex » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:12 am

Chicken wrote:I've also heard some reports here and there that newly copied characters are getting much more favorable Emblem to Justice Point conversions than Blizzard announced. 11-12 Justice Points per Emblem is what I've heard some people mention. There's a couple of threads about it on the official PTR forum.


Yea. I recopied my main and went from 200+ points to 2000+ points.
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:15 am

Flex wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:
Flex wrote:On the PTR I was getting like 16 Justice Points per boss kill, or maybe 11.


normal or heroic?


Heroic.


It's gonna take forever to have enough points to buy a single piece of gear >.>
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:16 am

Flex wrote:
Chicken wrote:I've also heard some reports here and there that newly copied characters are getting much more favorable Emblem to Justice Point conversions than Blizzard announced. 11-12 Justice Points per Emblem is what I've heard some people mention. There's a couple of threads about it on the official PTR forum.


Yea. I recopied my main and went from 200+ points to 2000+ points.


Bashiok wrote:We’ve revised the Justice Points conversion rate for Emblems of Triumph and Emblems of Frost. When the upcoming 4.0.1 patch goes live, these emblems will be converted into 11.58 Justice Points (up from the previously planned 2.75 Justice Points per emblem). Justice Points accrued above the soft cap of 4,000 will be converted to gold at a rate of 47.5 silver per point (down from 2 gold per point) when patch 4.0.3 goes live.

The original explanation thread (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 6850245012) and the subsequent conversion math update (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... eNo=10#184) have been updated to reflect these changes.
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Kishi » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:26 am

tlitp wrote:This post seems interesting. I'd like to see several data sets from PTR :
I. naked; report race, base Str&Agi, dodge/parry chance
II. equip several items with Strength, but lacking parry rating; report total Str, parry chance
III. equip several items with dodge rating, but lacking Agility; report dodge rating&chance
IV. equip several items with Agility, but lacking dodge rating; report total Agi, dodge chance

Thanks.


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4.0.1 PTR (Build 13082):
I. Level 80 Bloodelf: 148 Str, 92 Agi, 0 Dodge Rating, 0 Parry Rating
        Dodge: 5.42%, Parry: 5.00%

II. (column +Str = Str - 148)
Str     Parry%  +Str    Parry Rating    % per Ratingpoint
205     5.32%   57      14              0.02285714%
215     5.37%   67      16              0.02312500%
273     5.71%   125     31              0.02290323%
286     5.78%   138     34              0.02294118%
396     6.40%   248     62              0.02258065%
415     6.49%   267     66              0.02257576%
482     6.86%   334     83              0.02240964%
506     6.99%   358     89              0.02235955%
605     7.53%   457     114             0.02219298%
635     7.68%   487     121             0.02214876%
695     8.00%   547     136             0.02205882%
729     8.19%   581     145             0.02200000%
818     8.65%   670     167             0.02185629%
858     8.85%   710     177             0.02175141%
900     9.08%   752     188             0.02170213%
945     9.30%   797     199             0.02160804%
990     9.52%   842     210             0.02152381%
1039    9.76%   891     222             0.02144144%
1290    10.99%  1142    285             0.02101754%
1354    11.29%  1206    301             0.02089701%

III.
Dodge Rating    Dodge %                 % per Ratingpoint
63              6.85%                   0.02269841%
124             8.17%                   0.02217742%
165             9.03%                   0.02187879%
227             10.28%                  0.02140969%
306             11.81%                  0.02088235%
356             12.73%                  0.02053371%
394             13.42%                  0.02030457%
448             14.37%                  0.01997768%
469             14.73%                  0.01985075%
577             16.51%                  0.01922010%
660             17.80%                  0.01875758%
704             18.46%                  0.01852273%
758             19.25%                  0.01824538%
870             20.82%                  0.01770115%
1022            22.79%                  0.01699609%
                                 
IV.(column +Agi = Agi - 92)
Agi     Dodge % +Agi                    % per point of Agi
114     5.86%   22                      0.02000000%
119     5.96%   27                      0.02000000%
159     6.74%   67                      0.01970149%
166     6.88%   74                      0.01972973%
175     7.05%   83                      0.01963855%
183     7.20%   91                      0.01956044%


Here's the Output of my Calcsheet, hopefully there are enough data points (esp in Section IV).
(Total Strength - Base Strength) to Parry Rating conversion is 4 Str to 1 Parry Rating (as mentioned in the other Thread).
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby amh » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:54 am

My PTR client suddenly had a second account. When I log onto eu.battle.net, I find this one (attached pic):

Is this what the beta account looks like? Haven't gotten an email confirming it, but the account is definitely new.

Edit: Well, it looks like it's the beta. Characters ending up on Mekkatorque EU PVE, no other options. Go, downloader, go!
Editedit: Woo, beta access \o\
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Huon » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:28 am

Flex wrote:On the PTR I was getting like 16 Justice Points per boss kill, or maybe 11.


They must have changed it. I ran heroic Stonecore up to boss 1 (no kill), then did all of heroic deadmines minus bugged event at the end and had 375. I started at 0.

So yea... major buff?

oh PS I was told that you get more if you do your kills in a "guild" run.
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Re: Ask a beta tester thread

Postby Bastien » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:38 am

amh wrote:My PTR client suddenly had a second account. When I log onto eu.battle.net, I find this one (attached pic):

Is this what the beta account looks like? Haven't gotten an email confirming it, but the account is definitely new.

Edit: Well, it looks like it's the beta. Characters ending up on Mekkatorque EU PVE, no other options. Go, downloader, go!
Editedit: Woo, beta access \o\



For me, Beta was the one above the one you indicated (WOW1 PTR). So, yeah..gratz! And welcome!
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