[25H] Professor Putricide

[Rhiannon]

Make sure your DKs are targeting the green ooze when summoning army. If they're targeting putricide, army will go on putricide. (Unholy DKs can control army a bit more afaik, as army will obey commands given to the permanent ghoul, but all specs can just control the initial target of army through targeting the right thing.)

[Cistara]

Any tips for making sure the Army of the Dead ends up on the green ooze?

We tried several different timings and positionings, and it is seemed that 90% of the time the army would just run over to Putricide at his table... very frustrating.

Try to make sure your DKs don't have diseases ticking on Putricide while summoning Army.

[Fenris]

We just started trying it in the last week and managed to have our few first wipes <500k hp,so i have a quick question

Heroism:blow it at the start of p3 or during the switch from p2 to p3 to gain "free dps" while he's standing there doing nothing (IF he stays still for 30s even if the 2 oozes die faster..never tested it)?

Guess we could solve our time-problem having a dps or two take some stacks but not having any raiding ferals (and nearly never 4 tanks online the same evening) it gets tricky to do

P.s: just for quick confirmation,is it possible for the abom. player to slow down the first green ooze and the first switch pair managing the slime puddles even without a revitalize druid,right?

[fuzzygeek]

We lust as soon as the orange ooze fixates during the second interstitial.

We use 3 tanks, but usually bring 7 heals to make sure we have a full raid alive going into p3. Tank swaps are at 2-2-3-3-4-4-4. We generally kill it at the second four stack. We are chaining DGs at the second 3 stack or so, depending on raid makeup.

We generally have one revit druid, one disc priest, and our abom driver has gotten pretty experienced at energy management. Generally he slows green once, and orange twice. I am not certain how well this would work with 0 revit druids, especially if you get a lousy distribution for gas vector.

[Fenris]

I cant believe it....

i totally forgot about discipline priests and rapture *facepalm*

That alone should help quite a bit

Will try next time with this and hero on the second switch to see how it goes

[Belloc]

If you need a DPS to take a stack, you can Hand of Protection them and have them taunt immediately before the stack goes out. If timed properly, they'll still have a fixate on Putricide when the stack goes out. I'm not sure how hard the hit is, though.


And, yes, Putricide will continue mixing his potions if you kill the adds fast enough. We've had him down below 30% before phase 3 started on 10-man.

[Meloree]

P.s: just for quick confirmation,is it possible for the abom. player to slow down the first green ooze and the first switch pair managing the slime puddles even without a revitalize druid,right?

Heroism - the best bet is to time it around the fight clock, more than percentage. Either that, or use it to help healers. IE: If you're getting to P3 at around 6 minutes, then that's a good time for heroism, as both 2 and 3 minute cooldowns are going to be up to stack. If you're getting there at some cooldown unfriendly time, it's probably best to time heroism to help healers as the stacks of buff get high - cover the final 40 seconds of the fight with heroism. It won't make much difference to DPS, if there's no cooldown co-ordination.

For the abom: It depends entirely on how fast your P1 is. If you're getting 2 oozes, then the abom driver should always be able to execute 3 slows in the transition. If you're getting 1, it could be dicey. If you're skipping the first ooze, then it's almost guaranteed that even with replenishment your abom will only have 1 slow at the start of transition.

EDIT:

We use 3 tanks, but usually bring 7 heals

Seven? We used 5 in progression, and 3 now, and they already spend a lot of time DPSing in P1/2/early P3. I think there's something going horribly wrong if you need seven healers.

[Treck]

Heroism:blow it at the start of p3 or during the switch from p2 to p3 to gain "free dps" while he's standing there doing nothing (IF he stays still for 30s even if the 2 oozes die faster..never tested it)?

You want to use it pretty much as soon as EVERYONE is dpsing the boss again. If he is still stunned, then thats just great, you dont want hero while dpsing the adds (if your having soft "enrage" problems)

Guess we could solve our time-problem having a dps or two take some stacks but not having any raiding ferals (and nearly never 4 tanks online the same evening) it gets tricky to do

Ferals are obviously the best choise, ferals can even take the first 2 without to much trouble.
DKs/warriors/pallys can take one aswell, while shieldwall is up (its risky each time you swap tanks, but it will buy you more time).

P.s: just for quick confirmation,is it possible for the abom. player to slow down the first green ooze and the first switch pair managing the slime puddles even without a revitalize druid,right?

If you time it, yes.
We however just doesnt slow the first one anymore, just to be on the safe side (since he hits 80% 5-10sec after spawning the first add)

[fuzzygeek]

Seven? We used 5 in progression, and 3 now, and they already spend a lot of time DPSing in P1/2/early P3. I think there's something going horribly wrong if you need seven healers.

Back in April we were using 5, but the healers we had in April were considerably better than who we have to work with now. We basically had to rebuild the entire raid two months ago and gear 18 new people (most of whom don't use vanq tokens thank you very fuck, bliz). Tonight we'll probably scale back a heal, since people are comfortable with the fight now. On last week's kill I spent most of the first transition and P2 throwing up (3rd tank picked up Pute), and we still killed him relatively easily at the second 4 stack.

We probably don't "need" 7, but 1) it's added insurance, 2) we have a lot of healers in guild, and those with good DPS offspec tend to be our best healers; like, our best disc priest is also our only shadow priest -- I literally have no add'l DPS to bring in, and 3) people are sometimes dumb about goo (and positioning in general), which is why we're just 10/12. Maybe 11/12 by the end of the evening.

Well, you play with the cards you've got ...

[Fenris]

Wipes at 50k hp arent fun

But we finally did it,with 150 seconds left to server shutdown for the patch

After trying 3 tanks 5 healers we went back to 3/6 for the kill

[fuzzygeek]

But we finally did it,with 150 seconds left to server shutdown for the patch

Very sweet.