[10] Deathbringer Saurfang

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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby makiwara » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:03 am

Anyone have tips for this on heroic mode? We're almost to the 30% point on saurfang but once we get a 4th mark shit just gets outta control. We do everything we can to minimize blood power. Taunts are spot on, both tanks are doing stuns on blood beasts when they can, other classes are taunting left/right to make sure no one gets touched but he still seems to get power so fast.
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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Bastosa » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:45 am

makiwara wrote:Anyone have tips for this on heroic mode? We're almost to the 30% point on saurfang but once we get a 4th mark shit just gets outta control. We do everything we can to minimize blood power. Taunts are spot on, both tanks are doing stuns on blood beasts when they can, other classes are taunting left/right to make sure no one gets touched but he still seems to get power so fast.

Sounds like something is wrong there. There is no way you should be getting a 4th mark. We found things get pretty dicey at 3 and shoot for only getting 2.

If the tank taunts are okay (double check this because even one second late has a huge penalty) and no one is getting hit by beasts... that the BP has to be coming from the raid. Make sure ranged is spread out for blood nova. Also we found it useful to use other tricks to get rid of boiling blood. Myself and the ret pally would BoP the first few that went out to remove it, also he would bubble if he got it. Other things such as iceblock may work as well?

Last thing is maybe your dps just isn't there? We found we had to two-heal this to avoid hard enrage. This is one of the harder hard-modes imo.
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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Belloc » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:49 am

3 and 4 marks?! Holy shit! We wiped shortly after we got 2, every time. Of course, that was still learning the fight. I'd not expect us to be able to survive with 3 marks unless we 3 healed it, and that just seems like it'd bring other problems.

For reference, we'd wipe with 2 marks up while the boss was at about 30%.
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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Avengeance » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:40 pm

It's probably a DPS issue if you get anything more than 2 marks - for refernce, our kills happen on 2nd mark and about half way to getting a 3rd. If you 2 heal it you have to kill him before 3rd or it'd just be unhealable. If you 3 heal it, then you can probably endure the 3rd one, but most likely have to kill him before 4th.
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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Serv » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:34 am

Our rogue took a video of our hardmode Kill on DBS.
We played with 2 tanks, 2 healer, 6 DPS and finished the encounter right after mark 3. Impressive healing from our druid/paladin.
Maybe you can take something to your attempts.

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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Belloc » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:28 pm

Divine Intervention + Battle Res = Wow... we're not wiping after 2 marks anymore! (and, yes, I was the one that DI'd).
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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Brutalus » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:38 am

We killed it last night in 10man heroic. We had a holy paladin and a resto druid. The holy paladin would stick beacon on the first mark and spam heal on the MTs to save some GCDs with tank switches and the resto druid would spam heal on the second mark. Unfortunately our resto druid was an alt and was lacking in gear somewhat and was unable to keep the raid alive along with his mark, so we had our elemental shaman cover the raid when the boss hit 30%. We got a third mark at ~15 seconds before the kill and our elemental shaman spamhealed him. The holy paladin and I BoPed people that got Boiling Blood that already had the mark.

We were wiping a few times to Blood Nova + Mark damage causing ludicrous amounts of burst damage that our resto druid couldn't handle, so we were considering having marked people run into the melee to not get Blood Nova'd. We didn't actually adopt this, as the first mark was on a melee and the second was on a hunter. We also wanted to confirm that the threshold of ranged to have Blood Nova on a ranged was indeed 3 people.

Belloc, that sounds like a great idea! I only wish I'd/we'd tried that. After the release + CR tactic I'm assuming that this will also be changed, but I'll hope not!

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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Mevy » Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:56 am

Did anyone kill him without an holy paladin yet?
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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Treck » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:14 am

Yes, last week, and this week.
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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Mevy » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:32 am

Atm either tank dies or the mark. Even before the 2nd mark comes out.

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Guess need a lot more Equic on our tanks, how did you deal with the mark + boil?
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Re: [10] Deathbringer Saurfang

Postby Treck » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:33 pm

Hots on tanks, spammheals on the marks.
Both our kills the priest got a mark, where blinding heal works wonders.
But the tanks didnt really require much healing attention with some CDs rotating.
If you would to have a paladin that would only remove one of the marks, if your at the point when you get 3 marks, you still got 2 ppl who are taking a lot of damage. If things get caotic at 2 marks without a holypally, then one wouldnt really help out that much.
We had our 4th mark hit on our firstkill.
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