[ICC-10] Looking for info about trash.

[Shoju]

Can anyone tell me about the trash inside ICC? I have heard that it is still faceroll, but I would like to know if there is any trash so far that needs to die first? Tonight is my guilds first forray into the zone, and I only did a Marrowgar PuG on the PTR.


Bonus points if you think about it from the perspective of a 10man guild in 10 man gear

[Flex]

If you have a rogue tell him to dust off Disarm Trap.

What wiped us on trash were the traps that set off a bone sentinel thing with 1.7 million health and a saberlash mechanic. Guild rogue did some research today and saw that they are triggered by a trap and can be disarmed.

The regular trash is generally face rollable. Kill the Skeleton Mage casters first, then the spiders.

[Shoju]

If you have a rogue tell him to dust off Disarm Trap.

What wiped us on trash were the traps that set off a bone sentinel thing with 1.7 million health and a saberlash mechanic. Guild rogue did some research today and saw that they are triggered by a trap and can be disarmed.

The regular trash is generally face rollable. Kill the Skeleton Mage casters first, then the spiders.

/cry... both of our rogues are on LoA's until AT LEAST after the holidays. Can you get around them? or is it just a "Sucks to not have a Rogue moment"?

[Flex]

You can tell when you tripped the trap because you'll get an 80% movement reduction debuff. If you get that stop what you are doing and move back as a skeleton will spawn shortly.

[Rojhaz]

If you have a rogue tell him to dust off Disarm Trap.

What wiped us on trash were the traps that set off a bone sentinel thing with 1.7 million health and a saberlash mechanic. Guild rogue did some research today and saw that they are triggered by a trap and can be disarmed.

The regular trash is generally face rollable. Kill the Skeleton Mage casters first, then the spiders.

We killed the Spiders first so minimal web wraps would go out. The mages can just be turned away from the raid.

[Wrathy]

We went into the trash thinking first day Ulduar trash, and CCed a lot of stuff. We found that it was best to keep the Spiders Shackled while we dpsed down the casters first and then the melee. Depending on the number of priests in your raid, you can CC quite a bit of the trash leading up to the first boss. The web wrap is probably the most annoying thing. After that most of the trash is laughable. Our last pull before marrowgar we pulled two sides and a bone senitnel and just AoE'ed it all down.

[fudomyou]

For now, because the giant adds are worth two gold a person and more importantly 75-82.5 rep, we're intentionally setting them off and killing them.

As for the other trash, we focused on the spiders because of dark mending and web wrap. As long as the casters are faced away from the raid for their glacial blasts, they're really not that bad. Also, make sure to have some single target DPS on The Damned, because they will explode for 9-10k damage and having 4 of them blow up at the same time isn't recommended (though it's hilarious).

Also, is there anything to be done about the high priests (on 25) before Deathwhisper other than "heal the shit out of everyone and pray"? That aura is ridiculous. We lose 3 people to it every time.

[Senador]

For the High Priests, we tanked them away from the ranged to avoid extra aura damage. When it casts the debuff, have that person run out, either to the side away from everyone as a melee, or back up the steps as a caster. This cut down a lot of the extra raid damage. The debuff can target pets, so we just had our hunters keep their pets next to them, and then ran up with it if the pet got targeted. Once we did that, we had no issues with these at all.

[Arcia]

Most trash so far seems really easy and its not really worth it to cc, the packs are standing really close to each other though so we use alot of los pulls to get them away from the other packs.

We used got the casters/healers down first and interupted dark mending.

[Nekkos]

If you have a rogue tell him to dust off Disarm Trap.

What wiped us on trash were the traps that set off a bone sentinel thing with 1.7 million health and a saberlash mechanic. Guild rogue did some research today and saw that they are triggered by a trap and can be disarmed.

The regular trash is generally face rollable. Kill the Skeleton Mage casters first, then the spiders.

Was it actually a saber lash like Marrowgar has or just a cleave? I only tanked them in 10 as we were able to avoid spawning them in 25.

[Rhiannon]

Pretty sure it's just a cleave, tanked it on 25 with no one else in front of the mob and didn't notice any large spikes.

[Flex]

Was it actually a saber lash like Marrowgar has or just a cleave? I only tanked them in 10 as we were able to avoid spawning them in 25.

We found it easier to keep the tanks alive when two were in front of him.

[Blackharon]

I was watching thier ToT bar specifically and was under the impression it was a patchwerkesque mechanic (turns and smacks the 2nd highest on threat)

Though I could have been looking at it the wrong way and the people who died were all standing in front. I'll see when I go into 10man tonight.

[Flex]

I was watching thier ToT bar specifically and was under the impression it was a patchwerkesque mechanic (turns and smacks the 2nd highest on threat)

Though I could have been looking at it the wrong way and the people who died were all standing in front. I'll see when I go into 10man tonight.

It may also be that.

I'll revise. We found it easier when they were double tanked.

[Shoju]

Trash was fun. We alternated between shackling the spiders and the mages to figure out which we liked better. The raid was split on which went easier. The real killer is when you just pull a pack of trash and then a stupid bone guy shows up. That was brutal. Mainly with the spell lockout the first couple of times when people didn't understand what they were doing.