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Redoubt, newb question

Postby s4dfish » Wed May 02, 2007 2:10 pm

Redoubt reads (via wowwiki.com)
Damaging melee and ranged attacks against you have a 10% chance to increase your chance to block by 30%. Lasts 10 sec or 5 blocks.
I'm assuming that "damaging melee and ranged attacks" means hits/crits/crushes/blocks but not miss/dodge/parry. Can it still proc if an attack is completely blocked, with no damage getting through?
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Postby Ashes » Wed May 02, 2007 2:27 pm

Just form what I've read it only procs off actual damage so a complete block would not proc it.
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Postby eia » Wed May 02, 2007 3:00 pm

No, it only procs off damage indeed, same as reckoning and retribution aura.
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Postby Arcand » Wed May 02, 2007 3:40 pm

If Power Word: Shield is up, do you get a chance to block incoming attacks, thus sparing the PW:S? Or does it eat all incoming damage until it's knocked down and then you get an opportunity to block?

I could probably figure this out from combat logs, but it's so much simpler if somebody just knows. :D
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Postby Barter » Wed May 02, 2007 5:36 pm

Arcand wrote:If Power Word: Shield is up, do you get a chance to block incoming attacks, thus sparing the PW:S? Or does it eat all incoming damage until it's knocked down and then you get an opportunity to block?

I could probably figure this out from combat logs, but it's so much simpler if somebody just knows. :D


u can block and spare the shield
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Postby Theowyn » Wed May 02, 2007 7:54 pm

u can block and spare the shield


Are you positive on this? I've been telling priests who shield me not to so I can block...*looks sheepish*
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Postby Barter » Wed May 02, 2007 8:15 pm

Theowyn wrote:
u can block and spare the shield


Are you positive on this? I've been telling priests who shield me not to so I can block...*looks sheepish*


well, when i did shattered halls and a priest shielded me with the pack on me it took some time to go off, u can dodge/parry/miss atleast, and im pretty sure u can block
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Postby Theowyn » Thu May 03, 2007 3:47 am

Can anyone else weigh in on this? What can you do during a pw: shield?
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Postby Lore » Thu May 03, 2007 6:53 am

You can dodge and parry while in a shield, which means the absorb comes after the attack table is calculated. I'd assume that means you can block as well.
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Postby Jensaarai » Thu May 03, 2007 10:01 am

95% sure you can block while PW:S.
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Postby Ashes » Thu May 03, 2007 10:57 am

I tend to watch my haelth and damage taken while Tanking kinda like a spedometer. I've seen blocks misses parries and dodge all while I had the PW.S up.
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Postby Armand » Thu May 03, 2007 12:41 pm

PW:S also eats the damage after armor reduction is applied, or atleast it used to way back when I tested it.

Does a block while under PW:S return dmg from holy shield / bosanc tho?
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Postby Joanadark » Mon May 14, 2007 11:53 am

Power Word: Shield basically functions like...say....a Last Stand would.

Think about it not as a bubble absorbing hits, but as a one-use extention of your health bar, that just happens to be invisible.

When you take hits while under PW:S, everything is calculated exactly as normal, and any damage you would take is deducted from the invisible top-end of your health bar granted by PW:S.


example:

You have PW:S that has 1000 damage absorbtion remaining.
You have 14k health.


Monster hits you for 300 (500 blocked)

Blocking reactive damage from Holy Shield will occur.
Blocking reactive damage from BoSanc will occur.
Shield Spike damage will occur.

300 will be knocked off your remaining PW:S absorbtion.

Effectively this means that you went from 15k health to 14.7k health, since PW:S functions as an addition to the top end of your HP.

Since, in terms of ACTUAL health, you remain at full (14k), no reactive damage from Retribution Aura will occur, and neither will Redoubt or Reckoning gain a chance to proc.



Another example, continue from the first:

You have PW:S that has 700 damage absorbtion remaining.
You have 14k health.


Monster hits you for 3500 (crushing)

Your effective health will drop by 3500 from 14700 to 11200k.
Your actual health is now 11200, giving a health deficit of -2800.
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