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Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:39 pm
by DisRuptive1
Is there any harm in casting Shield of the Righteous when its damage reduction buff is still up (such as under the effects of Divine Purpose)?

I was testing it out and got a lucky Divine Purpose streak which allowed me to get the buff up to 6 seconds but I was afraid of clipping issues so I made this post.

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:08 pm
by daishan
You can't clip the SotR buff, it always adds 3 more seconds on to the end of what you have, it makes holy avenger an awesome cd :D

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:48 am
by Mozen
Wow, I didn't know it doesn't clip. So 18 seconds of Holy Avenger, suppose we pop it right after a ShoR, that means we can get 12*3 = 36 seconds of 30% damage reduction? Looks like a great CD for AOE farming stuff like the motes of harmony... :D

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:10 am
by daishan
Hmm don't think you'll get as much as 36 sec of the SotR buff unless you're incredibly lucky with procs, but a good 20 sec with a little haste.
Also my SotR gives me 48% dmg reduction and I'm gemmed for haste not mastery, looking at the base dmg reduction maybe?

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:01 am
by theckhd
It should be a minimum of 38% even with 0 mastery rating.

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:21 pm
by xstratax
I'd say a minimum of 43%, since you should always have Might (or one of its alternatives) now as a Paladin, imo.

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:30 pm
by theckhd
Well, you could imagine a 10-man group with one paladin and no monks/druids. And I'd imagine that stats is more important for raid dps than might, so there are some situations where you might not have it. Though it's a bit of a stretch.

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:43 am
by daishan
Yep even more of a stretch as shammies have BoM as a raid passive, and can Hunters bring BoM as well they seem to be able to do every other buff/debuff going. Damn pleased we have a good reliable hunter again so useful in a 10 man.

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:02 am
by Nooska
Spirit Beasts and Cats bring BoM, Shale Spiders (exotic) bring BoK.

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:37 am
by Lastwolf
Kinda in the same vein, what should the uptime of SotR buff be?

I read someone told me that around 70% should be the target but I'm struggling, my best last night was 38% odd, I can't be that terrible, I might have wasted the odd HP by being a bit slow/ concentrating on moving but that seems a hell of a gulf. Am I the victim of a wind up or do I just need to stop sucking?

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:14 am
by daishan
Depends how much haste you have.
I seem to remember Theck saying with no haste we generate about 0.5 of a holy power every second so with no down time and perfect play you'll get about 50% uptime. If your specced holy avenger more than 50% is possible, but in a real fight 38% doesn't sound too bad as there's often fight mechanics that mean you have to break your rotation a little.

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:44 pm
by theckhd
It's closer to 0.4, actually, not including L75 talents. Once L75 talents are included, it can end up around 50% averaged over an entire fight.

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:45 am
by theothersteve7
Mind you, the boss is probably only meleeing you about 80% of the time depending on the fight. You can get a better idea of performance by looking at incoming hits. What's your percent on those?

Re: Is there any harm spamming Shield of the Righteous?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:14 am
by Lastwolf
how would I get that information ?