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Re: Who can CC what

Postby Malthrax » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:11 am

econ21 wrote:Added Mind control and seduce, as they do sound useful (and I recall them being great in MGT). Corrected typos (blame cut and paste). Can a warlock fear one target and seduce another? With such short durations, they'd probably not do much else but with DOTs still ticking away on non-CC mobs, it could still be effective.


With fast reaction time and low server latency, a capable Warlock should be able to banish one, succy-seduce one, and chain-fear a third... though his DPS will be in the toilet as a result.
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby Arcand » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:22 am

Ojimaru wrote:Actually... unless WOWHead is wrong, Mind Control only works on Humanoids of up to Level 41...

Can anybody confirm?


Had a priest MCing Adepts in Vortex Pinnacle last night, and I'm reasonably sure they're higher than 41.
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby æ » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:22 pm

Retribution paladin – Repentance: works on any mob except beasts; lasts 1m; 1m CD


Seeing how important elementals are in this expansion, this is a bit of an oversight. :lol:
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby æ » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:43 pm

But it would be nice if there was a glyph for that..
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby bldavis » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:07 pm

as far as cc that stops casting, just off the top of my head

Lock - Banish (elemental/demon), Seduce, Fear
Mage - Poly (humanoid/beast)
Priest - MC
Rogue - Sap
Druid - nada.... :(
Shammy - Bind elemental (elemental..duh) Hex
Hunter - Freezing trap, Wyvern Sting
DK - none that i can think of
Pally - Repentance
Warrior - Intimidating shout (cower/aoe fear... not the best)
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby Ojimaru » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:03 pm

bldavis wrote:as far as cc that stops casting, just off the top of my head

Lock - Banish (elemental/demon), Seduce, Fear
Mage - Poly (humanoid/beast)
Priest - MC
Rogue - Sap
Druid - nada.... :(
Shammy - Bind elemental (elemental..duh) Hex
Hunter - Freezing trap, Wyvern Sting
DK - none that i can think of
Pally - Repentance
Warrior - Intimidating shout (cower/aoe fear... not the best)

Pally Hammer of Justice (with Improved Hammer of Justice for Stun-immune), as well as Avenger's Shield.
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby econ21 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:51 am

Ojimaru wrote:Pally Hammer of Justice (with Improved Hammer of Justice for Stun-immune), as well as Avenger's Shield.


Are you sure about this? Looking at wowhead, the tool tip and talent calculators do not mention interrupting and one of the comments says that no longer having an interrupt element makes the talent useless for PvE.

I am thinking of starting a "who can interrupt" thread, as interrupting big attacks seems crucial for some heroic boss fights. I was a little dismayed to find my shield being the best form of interrupt in a guild run (the mage and hunter interrupts had longer CDs). My hammer was not improved and did not work.
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby Goodheart » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:15 am

Vindication now has that effect.
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby econ21 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:28 am

Goodheart wrote:Vindication now has that effect.


Interesting - I have that talent and got an "immune" message when I used my hammer to interrupt Lady Naz'jar. But maybe that just meant she was not stunned but was interrupted? My impression at the time was that she was not interrupted but maybe I was wrong (or slow with the hammer).

WTB warrior interrupt.
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby Goodheart » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:41 am

Yes you do still get an immune message for the stun portion of HoJ, but it will still interrupt the spell. It kinda sucks though that it is on the global cooldown...
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby Flex » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:53 am

econ21 wrote:
Goodheart wrote:Vindication now has that effect.


Interesting - I have that talent and got an "immune" message when I used my hammer to interrupt Lady Naz'jar. But maybe that just meant she was not stunned but was interrupted? My impression at the time was that she was not interrupted but maybe I was wrong (or slow with the hammer).

WTB warrior interrupt.


You would get two immune messages if she was immune to both the stun and the interrupt.
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby bldavis » Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:38 pm

warriors have shield slam or pummel for interrupts.....

and AS and HoJ arent CC
they are stuns/interrupts

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Re: Who can CC what

Postby econ21 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:31 am

Strangely, the human looking casters in normal Grim Batol were immune to Mind Control. Not sure why.
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby fudomyou » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:01 pm

econ21 wrote:Strangely, the human looking casters in normal Grim Batol were immune to Mind Control. Not sure why.


Are you talking about the taller Ascended windwalkers/flamecasters/etc.? Those guys count as elementals. Otherwise, dunno.
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Re: Who can CC what

Postby Eltiana » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:25 pm

bldavis wrote:as far as cc that stops casting, just off the top of my head

Lock - Banish (elemental/demon), Seduce, Fear
Mage - Poly (humanoid/beast)
Priest - MC
Rogue - Sap
Druid - nada.... :(
Shammy - Bind elemental (elemental..duh) Hex
Hunter - Freezing trap, Wyvern Sting
DK - none that i can think of
Pally - Repentance
Warrior - Intimidating shout (cower/aoe fear... not the best)
Druids do have Hibernate. Frost DKs have Hungering Cold though I know that barely counts as CC lol.
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