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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Awyndel » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:43 am

The bubble can still be very usefull even if you don't cast it very often. You can cast it ahead of a damage spike, increasing your EH.

And for "oh shit" purposes I would even consider the crit talent at 85.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Njall » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:49 am

A few things there that were food for thought. Very much appreciated.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby DexterBelgium » Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:26 am

knaughty wrote:
DexterBelgium wrote:Great FAQ, as usual.

Thanks. :mrgreen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captatio_benevolentiae :wink:
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TL;DR:
  • 1/2 GbtL: Almost mandatory.
  • 2/2 GbtL: Good talent point, probably better than sticking a point in a threat talent for nearly everyone.


Indeed. The problem for me is that even in between the decision to cast WoG and the finger actually hitting the button, you could get nukehealed back to full (especially if your healers aren't bad, but were just "otherwise engaged"), wasting your WoG unless you have that second point. I'm taking a point out of GrC for it (if just to spite that talent, which I still consider clunky).
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Jarvick » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:33 pm

Great info in here, thanks for sharing it.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby RedAces » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:44 am

hey,
DexterBelgium wrote:The problem for me is that even in between the decision to cast WoG and the finger actually hitting the button, you could get nukehealed back to full


Like I heard, this is not the case in cata anymore... making WoG really good.

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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Durun » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:22 am

What are the thoughts on making a castsequence macro that does Shield of the Righteous first, followed by a Word of Glory on the second line for the 939 rotation, like such.

CS -> Judge -> CS -> HW -> CS -> SotR
CS -> Judge -> CS -> AS -> CS -> WoG

Would allow you to benefit from both abilities, while keeping threat maintained and healing up solidly.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Kuridan » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:06 am

Durun wrote:What are the thoughts on making a castsequence macro that does Shield of the Righteous first, followed by a Word of Glory on the second line for the 939 rotation, like such.

CS -> Judge -> CS -> HW -> CS -> SotR
CS -> Judge -> CS -> AS -> CS -> WoG

Would allow you to benefit from both abilities, while keeping threat maintained and healing up solidly.


Hate the idea honestly. Deciding to use WoG or ShotR is pretty situational, the time it comes up in your macro may not be the best time to use it. I much prefer to have everything bound seperately so I can chose which button to use. For instance say it's time in your rotation to cast CS, but the mob is casting a spell, well it may be a dps loss to cast AS, but that's what I'm going to do to interupt the cast. Or you have an awesome healer who's keeping you topped up, why waste HP on WoG when I can ShotR. Much better to have all your options open for you then be locked into a macro.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Durun » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:22 am

The macro i was refering to was simply more along the lines of a /castsequence Shield of the Righteous, Word of Glory macro. It would only fill in the final part of the 939 rotation for the dumping of holy power part, not for the entire 939 rotation.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Kuridan » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:53 am

Durun wrote:The macro i was refering to was simply more along the lines of a /castsequence Shield of the Righteous, Word of Glory macro. It would only fill in the final part of the 939 rotation for the dumping of holy power part, not for the entire 939 rotation.


I see what you are saying, although the original post doesn't make it look like that. I still think you would be better off having the abilities keybound seperately. Personally I have Shield on 4 and WoG on 5, very easy to hit either one.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby DexterBelgium » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:24 am

Yeps, I have the same thing, all "either/or" buttons right next or above and below one another: WoG above ShoR, AS above HW above Consec, CS above Hammer. You could do the same thing with modifiers, really. Whatever suits your style. I, too, can't see the benefit in having a macro. You'll curse it when that second ShoR at the beginning of the fight that would have kept the nuking, cooldownpopping 30second wonder DPS mouthbreather from peeling off you, and you'll curse it again at the end of the fight, when your healer's mana bar is begging for mercy and your Omen shows only a single bar with a few dots underneath, if you catch my drift.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby knaughty » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:56 pm

I've never liked /castsequence macros. I need all my abilities available and key-bound because during actual real encounters rather than "tanking" a target dummy, you frequently want to mix up what you're casting.

At which point I need everything key-bound... and then another key or the cast-sequence. What's the point?

I use a game-pad, all "in-combat" abilities are on the pad. Keyboard doesn't get touched during combat. In fact, the only thing the keyboard gets used for is chatting - I don't know what keyboard keys my abilities are bound to...

I did find that the gamepad didn't have enough buttons, so I got a 17-button mouse as well.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby knaughty » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:30 am

Updated for levelling to 85!

Good luck and have fun - no updates till I ding 5 times.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby -Davitz » Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:53 pm

knaughty wrote:Q: OMG, Cataclysm hit and I'm levelling prot starting in 5 minutes tell me how to spec?
A: 0/31/5

Link leads to a 0/32/4 build
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby knaughty » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:03 pm

-Davitz wrote:Link leads to a 0/32/4 build


Well spotted - fixed. I'll check the 85 build later.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby theckhd » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:23 pm

CS is an OK 3rd prime for AE

I assume that was supposed to be s/CS/HotR, or else s/AE/ST
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