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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby knaughty » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:41 pm

theckhd wrote:All of the simulations have been updated on the front page.

Notable changes:
-Gear set added to front page
-Corrected ability damage formulas (including HoW)
-Sub-20% rotations added (ShoR>CS>J>HoW is the winner)
-Crusade down slightly, SotP up slightly
-HotR glyph now sucks (which we knew, but now the sims accurately reflect that)
-CS buff made the CS glyph better
-A bunch of new weapons in the weapon sim


FAQ will be updated to reflect Theck's new data, probably tonight.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby knaughty » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:29 am

knaughty wrote:
theckhd wrote:-Sub-20% rotations added (ShoR>CS>J>HoW is the winner)

FAQ will be updated to reflect Theck's new data, probably tonight.


Done, except for Execute range rotation. Forgot to stick that in.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Mukat » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:48 pm

tried searching, and was pitifully unsuccessful: what is the current physical hit cap? is it still 263?
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby theckhd » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:57 pm

Mukat wrote:tried searching, and was pitifully unsuccessful: what is the current physical hit cap? is it still 263?

Yes, it's still 8%, or 263 hit rating.


Knaughty: One minor nitpick, you still have a sentence that says HotR is a decent AoE glyph. Now that we know it doesn't affect the AoE portion, it's downgraded to a really terrible single-target glyph. I'd just get rid of that sentence and say something like, "The third glyph is up to you - CS and Judgement both give a big more single-target DPS, or you can use that slot for some utility."
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby tlitp » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:06 pm

theckhd wrote:(...) 8%, or 263 hit rating.

Nope.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Palizangetsu » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:37 pm

tlitp wrote:
theckhd wrote:(...) 8%, or 263 hit rating.

Nope.


^^ The 8% portion is correct but the rating required is 246.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby knaughty » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:42 pm

theckhd wrote:Knaughty: One minor nitpick, you still have a sentence that says HotR is a decent AoE glyph. Now that we know it doesn't affect the AoE portion, it's downgraded to a really terrible single-target glyph. I'd just get rid of that sentence and say something like, "The third glyph is up to you - CS and Judgement both give a big more single-target DPS, or you can use that slot for some utility."

Ugh. Ninja fixing. I'd missed that.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Janlaró » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:51 pm

"You could also drop the WoG talents and pick up Grand Crusader, I'm not going to hunt you down and yell at you or anything. Just read the Rotations post on how to use the procs."

This is what stands beneath ur Talent spec for LvL 80. obviously you switched ur Talent spec to use GrC already. It would be great to know why.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby theckhd » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:46 am

tlitp wrote:
theckhd wrote:(...) 8%, or 263 hit rating.

Nope.

Argh, that's right. I keep forgetting they changed the coefficient.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby knaughty » Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:53 pm

Janlaró wrote:"You could also drop the WoG talents and pick up Grand Crusader, I'm not going to hunt you down and yell at you or anything. Just read the Rotations post on how to use the procs."

This is what stands beneath ur Talent spec for LvL 80. obviously you switched ur Talent spec to use GrC already. It would be great to know why.

Whoops. Fixing.

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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby DisRuptive1 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:34 pm

Divine Plea doesn't give Holy Power.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Metherlance » Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:03 am

DisRuptive1 wrote:Divine Plea doesn't give Holy Power.


It will in 4.0.3 patch.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Xanthros » Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:19 pm

Q: So how to I pull something?
A: Like this:

1. Hit Divine Plea, you just got 3 Holy Power


Hello, excuse me, my english is not the best :)

Do I understand it right? Devine Plea generates 3 Holy Power? I'm a bit confused because when I press Devine Plea, i still have no Holy Power :)

Hope someone can help me,

Greetings, Xanthros


Edit: sry, my fault, just saw it one post above mine -.-'
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Chicken » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:43 pm

Metherlance wrote:
DisRuptive1 wrote:Divine Plea doesn't give Holy Power.


It will in 4.0.3 patch.
Just to confuse matters more, the current PTR build doesn't have the change to Shield of the Templar that makes Divine Plea generate Holy Power in. So let's just say you'd expect it to be in the 4.0.3 patch since that change is on the beta servers.
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Re: 4.0 Tankadin FAQ - Protection Paladin Basics.

Postby Faecroll » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:09 am

Knaughty ,

I have also found that , for the first tier of raiding we'll be using Windwalk which will make PoJ pretty much obsolete and also with Vindication adding an interrupt to HoJ and AS now interrupting spellcasting those 2 points in PoJ would be better spent in lowering the CD of HoJ ( at least for raiding and heroics ).


( I'm not totally sure this belongs here and may have ( probably has ) been discussed in other forums - and I don't have numbers to back me up here just saying having those intterupts available have saved my rear more than once in beta)
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