[10/25] How To: Ulduar

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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby Panzerdin » Thu May 21, 2009 1:40 pm

Works for me.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby Andris » Thu May 21, 2009 4:21 pm

They've changed the amount of time it takes for Ignis' adds to become molten to 10s (from 20s). This makes it fairly easy to solo-tank them to molten without taking too much fire damage:

- Bring them to the corner of fire furthest from the water you'll dunk them in.
- Once they are in the fire, stun them with Hammer of Justice (6s)
- Run to the far side of the fire while they're stunned.
- As the stun is wearing off, hit them with Avenger's Shield (3s daze). They will wander through the fire area, getting to you after about 2s.
- Tank them in the fire for about 1-2s until they become Molten. Note that becoming Molten is a threat drop, so you will need to establish immediate aggro after that.

I found this helpful because our druids love to root these things. Even when they're nowhere near the fire, even when I'm kiting them, even when they're standing next to the squishies in the main raid. :roll:
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby Panzerdin » Sat May 23, 2009 1:25 pm

Sounds good.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby towelliee » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:35 am

Normal 25 man I started the fight tanking Steelbreaker. Before he can get a Fusion punch off I was hit for:

22k
18k
5k dead....

I was running 43k HP Pool Stats:

26 dodge
19 parry
21 Block

According to my death recount I got a few heals at the start of the fight. Did my healers heal too early? I mean thats pretty hard hits back to back to back.

In my avoid set I have 30 dodge 20 parry and 15 block but I dind't think I would need it for NORMAL mode..

Any ideas? I am not gonna call out my healers if it might have been something I did.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby Panzerdin » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:40 am

I'd prefer a WWS, but I personally would be looking sideways at your healers. They really shouldn't have let three hits land on you without a heal, even with a parry.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby towelliee » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:12 am

Yeah trying to get mines now.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby towelliee » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:43 am

2009-05-31 23:28:32.066 Steelbreaker's High Voltage hit Towelliee for 1995 damage.
2009-05-31 23:28:32.831 Bers's Regrowth(R12) heals Towelliee for 1025 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:32.831 Bers's Rejuvenation(R12) heals Towelliee for 1028 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:32.909 Towelliee gains Finalgodfury's Sacred Shield.
2009-05-31 23:28:32.909 Towelliee's Judgement of Light(R1) heals Towelliee for 701 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:32.925 Towelliee gains 51 Mana.(Towelliee's Spiritual Attunement)
2009-05-31 23:28:32.925 Towelliee gains 48 Mana.(Towelliee's Spiritual Attunement)
2009-05-31 23:28:33.222 Steelbreaker's was dodged by Towelliee.
2009-05-31 23:28:33.300 Towelliee's Judgement of Light(R1) heals Towelliee for 702 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:33.878 Towelliee gains Dripz's Elemental Oath.
2009-05-31 23:28:33.894 Towelliee gains 152 Mana.(Towelliee's Blessing of Sanctuary)
2009-05-31 23:28:34.081 Towelliee gains Towelliee's Holy Shield(R6).
2009-05-31 23:28:34.722 Finalgodfury's Holy Light(R13) heals Towelliee for 10850 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:34.831 Towelliee's Improved Leader of the Pack heals Towelliee for 2137 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:34.956 HIT Steelbreaker High Voltage Towelliee 1995
2009-05-31 23:28:35.034 Steelbreaker's was dodged by Towelliee.
2009-05-31 23:28:35.581 Baicenette casts Misdirection to Towelliee.
2009-05-31 23:28:35.675 Towelliee gains 153 Mana.(Towelliee's Blessing of Sanctuary)
2009-05-31 23:28:35.675 Towelliee gains Baicenette's Misdirection.
2009-05-31 23:28:35.753 Towelliee's Libram of Obstruction ( Towelliee's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:35.972 Lethollus casts Holy Shock(R7) to Towelliee.
2009-05-31 23:28:36.488 Lethollus's Holy Shock(R7) heals Towelliee for 8567 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:36.878 Steelbreaker's hit Towelliee for 23344 damage.
2009-05-31 23:28:36.878 Towelliee's Leader of the Pack ( Biggyslim's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:37.034 Towelliee's Sacred Shield ( Finalgodfury's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:37.159 Towelliee gains 19 Mana.(Themoosh's Replenishment)
2009-05-31 23:28:37.488 Towelliee gains Kazesan's Unleashed Rage(R3).
2009-05-31 23:28:37.519 Towelliee gains 152 Mana.(Towelliee's Blessing of Sanctuary)
2009-05-31 23:28:37.519 Finalgodfury's Holy Light(R13) heals Towelliee for 16520 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:37.691 Towelliee's Avenging Wrath ( Towelliee's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:37.753 Towelliee gains 826 Mana.(Towelliee's Spiritual Attunement)
2009-05-31 23:28:38.003 Steelbreaker's High Voltage missed Towelliee.
2009-05-31 23:28:38.113 Healing Stream Totem IX's Healing Stream Totem heals Towelliee for 266 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:38.206 Harlequinn's Judgement of Light(R1) heals Towelliee for 858 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:38.206 Towelliee's Misdirection ( Baicenette's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:38.253 Finalgodfury's Flash of Light(R9) heals Towelliee for 6027 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:38.253 Towelliee gains 19 Mana.(Themoosh's Replenishment)
2009-05-31 23:28:38.394 Wildaguud casts Rejuvenation(R15) to Towelliee.
2009-05-31 23:28:38.566 Towelliee gains 13 Mana.(Towelliee's Spiritual Attunement)
2009-05-31 23:28:38.566 Towelliee gains 88 Mana.(Bizcuitz's Judgement of Wisdom(R1))
2009-05-31 23:28:38.597 Towelliee's Horn of Winter(R2) ( Wrekt's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:38.597 Towelliee gains 285 Mana.(Towelliee's Spiritual Attunement)
2009-05-31 23:28:38.738 Wildaguud's Rejuvenation heals Towelliee for 1846 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:38.738 Towelliee gains Wildaguud's Rejuvenation(R15).
2009-05-31 23:28:38.753 Steelbreaker's hit Towelliee for 19366 damage.
2009-05-31 23:28:39.378 Towelliee gains 152 Mana.(Towelliee's Blessing of Sanctuary)
2009-05-31 23:28:39.534 Towelliee gains 19 Mana.(Themoosh's Replenishment)
2009-05-31 23:28:39.738 Towelliee gains Finalgodfury's Sacred Shield.
2009-05-31 23:28:39.753 Towelliee's Elemental Oath ( Dripz's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:39.753 Towelliee gains Makeithard's Elemental Oath.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.144 Healing Stream Totem IX's Healing Stream Totem heals Towelliee for 266 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.409 Steelbreaker's hit Towelliee for 22566 damage.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.581 Towelliee gains 13 Mana.(Towelliee's Spiritual Attunement)
2009-05-31 23:28:40.597 Towelliee's Sacred Shield ( Finalgodfury's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.597 Towelliee gains Towelliee's Essence of Gossamer.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.597 Towelliee gains 19 Mana.(Themoosh's Replenishment)
2009-05-31 23:28:40.722 Auctash casts Riptide to Towelliee.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.956 Luminair's Judgement of Light(R1) heals Towelliee for 965 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.956 Towelliee gains 152 Mana.(Towelliee's Blessing of Sanctuary)
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Tree of Life ( Wildaguud's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Devotion Aura(R10) ( Towelliee's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Greater Blessing of Kings ( Finalgodfury's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Well Fed ( Towelliee's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Righteous Fury ( Towelliee's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Fire Resistance Aura(R5) ( Harlequinn's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Gift of the Wild(R4) ( Wildaguud's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Shadow Resistance Aura(R5) ( Bizcuitz's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Greater Blessing of Might(R5) ( Bizcuitz's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Greater Blessing of Sanctuary(R1) ( Towelliee's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Greater Blessing of Wisdom(R5) ( Lethollus's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Arcane Brilliance(R3) ( Samaster's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Unleashed Rage(R3) ( Kazesan's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Sacred Shield(R1) ( Finalgodfury's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Retribution Aura(R7) ( Luminair's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Seal of Corruption ( Towelliee's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.972 Towelliee's Prayer of Fortitude(R4) ( Imajin's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Prayer of Spirit(R3) ( Imajin's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Thorns(R8) ( Wildaguud's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Prayer of Shadow Protection(R3) ( Imajin's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Concentration Aura ( Finalgodfury's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Holy Shield(R6) ( Towelliee's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Rejuvenation(R15) ( Wildaguud's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Essence of Gossamer ( Towelliee's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Elemental Oath ( Makeithard's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Regrowth(R12) ( Bers's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Towelliee's Rejuvenation(R12) ( Bers's buffer ) is removed.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Steelbreaker's High Voltage hit Towelliee for 1855 damage.
2009-05-31 23:28:41.331 Towelliee deads.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby Corpsicle » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:57 pm

2009-05-31 23:28:36.878 Steelbreaker's hit Towelliee for 23344 damage.
2009-05-31 23:28:37.519 Finalgodfury's Holy Light(R13) heals Towelliee for 16520 hitpoints.
2009-05-31 23:28:38.253 Finalgodfury's Flash of Light(R9) heals Towelliee for 6027 hitpoints.

Pretty much negates the first big hit.

2009-05-31 23:28:38.753 Steelbreaker's hit Towelliee for 19366 damage.
2009-05-31 23:28:40.409 Steelbreaker's hit Towelliee for 22566 damage.

No heals land for anything big between these two hits.

2009-05-31 23:28:40.988 Steelbreaker's High Voltage hit Towelliee for 1855 damage.
2009-05-31 23:28:41.331 Towelliee deads.

Between the above big damage and the death, you gained some Druid hots, some judgement of light heals, but nothing else. It is hard to say if your pally was starting a cast when you got hit for the 19k hit, that just didn't land for some reason before you died. The hits are close enough together that if he had any lag he probably wouldn't have got anything off if he is healing reactively. Your druid didn't swiftmend or cast anything big at you, not sure if he is supposed to or not. Additionally your pallies Holy Shock was on cooldown, he cast it before the first big hit came in.

I don't see anything you could have done differently apart from being fast on the lay on hands button. Shield wall may not have been enough to save you depending on what your healers were about to do in the 2 seconds following your death. Suggest to the healers that they make sure to not heal you reactively would likely be good advice for this fight. Steelbreaker hits for typically around 20k on 10 man, so the damage you had incoming is pretty representative. You did get a bit shafted by RNG with some fast incoming damage that you didn't dodge/parry but that happens and healers need to be on the ball when it does.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby Faro » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:26 am

Usually when I go 2.2s without a heal and I have a druid *and* a holy paladin on me I tell the healers they need to tighten up. Having hots on you would have saved you there. Although like the guy above me said, you got pretty shafted by the RNG so don't be too hard on them.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby Panzerdin » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:54 am

Combination of bad luck, possibly questionable decision from Finalgodfury (Flash of Light = WTF?) and no clear input from the Druid.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby Drunkheifer » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:21 am

Panzerdin,

Could you add one thing to XT about his positioning. If you tank him on the left or right side of the room in between 2 scap piles, the adds only spawn from the opposite side of the room thus giving an amazing amount of time till the adds reach the boss. I know i have seen this info in other spots on this forum but i often reference this post to look stuff up real quick and i am sure it would help someone who hasn't done XT.

Plus this helps give your ranged dps a little bit more time on the heart before turning to the adds.
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Re: [10/25] How To: Ulduar

Postby Panzerdin » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:28 pm

Sounds good.
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