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Postby Remsaa » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:27 pm

I think I might fail at gemming :(

New to Prot, so far I have tanked 1 normal Shattered Halls with overgeared ppl + a 69 sham, and a normal Sethekk 4 man.

I have been thinking about tanking MgT, Heroics (MgT?) maybe even a Kara (i wish ZA).

The problem is, besides my nubinesss, and 0 tanking trinkets (going to try and farm the one from SH) I think my health is too low as well as my avoidance (which will be better once I get 2 tanking trinkets)

after 150 days played on this toon its about time I tried the only spec I dont have gear for :)

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Is my health too low, are my gems lol as hell?
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Postby 'Sanct' - Rise Of Legends » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:46 pm

My gear:
http://armorylite.com/us/Twisting+Nether/Sacrisanct

Right now I'm my guild's MT paladin tank. I compete fairly heavily with my guild's Warrior MT and feral MT. I'd like to think i'm in the lead slightly as i have the highest attendance as raid MT on our GFKs. We've downed Lurker,Leo,Tidewalker,Karathress in SSC and VR,Solarian in TK and Winterchill in Hyjal.

The set i'm wearing in the link is my spelldamage/general tanking set. I generally don't find myself wanting for survivability but I have been noticing even in my spelldamage gear that my threat lately has been completely unacceptable for some trash content. Even on Prince in our weekly badge gathering Kara I was only pushing around 700-800 TPS which with as much spellhit and spelldmg as i'm itemizing is very bad (yet again further proof prince's hitbox is not applying consecrate).

Yet, while on our ZA run this past week while tanking bear boss in the same set of gear I was pushing upwards of 1.4k TPS on my spikes and atleast 1k solid for most of the fight.

I use all of the standard consumables (wizard oil, spelldmg food, flask) and even a few like runes and nightmare seeds for heavier hitting bosses to augment my survivability.

For my Heavy tanking set I sub in Unwavering Legguards, Leo's Belt, VR's Bracers, and Tuskguard Helm.


What are some recommendations you guys could give me towards itemizing my gear or swapping around my gear that would help me generate more threat while maintaining atleast the survivability I have in my spelldamage set? Also any recommendations on my priority of attaining any new gear would be great too.

Thanks a lot for any help...
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Postby Jorex » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:50 pm

I'm the MT for my kara raid group and we are clearing it just fine. We should be moving into the 25 mans real soon.

Here is a link to my armory.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Jorex

I currently have 129 badges and will pick up the 100 badge legs as soon as the vendor is out. I was thinking my next peice after the legs should be a belt or slikk's cloak.

Which belt should I get?

Should I have the belt of the guardian made or purchase either iron-tusk girdle or girdle of the protector?

Thanks for the help.
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Postby Signum » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:51 pm

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... a&n=Signum

I seem to be riding the line of Uncrushability right now. All the upgrades I am looking at seem to drop me below the magical 102.4% threshold. As it is now, I'm already skirting the line, with my current unbuffed avoidance at 102.407%.

I've played around in Warcrafter, changing out my gems and trinkets, but any changes I do leave me with a few hundred less health and a trivial amount of avoidance in return.

My guild is basically farming Kz for badges, and our guild alliance basically has weekly Gruul/Mag runs. We've only done ZA once, and we got to the Eagle boss. We'll be doing more ZA in the future, but not for a few weeks. I rotate in as a tank for the guild alliance as we do SSC/TK, and we started on Hyjal last week.

So my question is: is this where I should be now? Looking at badge loot, T4 raid instances, and T5 raid instances, I am not really seeing anything I can upgrade to, that won't knock me under the avoidance or defense threshold. Am I missing something?
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Postby Erendis » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:58 pm

Jorex wrote:I'm the MT for my kara raid group and we are clearing it just fine. We should be moving into the 25 mans real soon.

Here is a link to my armory.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Jorex

I currently have 129 badges and will pick up the 100 badge legs as soon as the vendor is out. I was thinking my next peice after the legs should be a belt or slikk's cloak.

Which belt should I get?

Should I have the belt of the guardian made or purchase either iron-tusk girdle or girdle of the protector?

Thanks for the help.


I'd go with the Slikks cloak as you have an easily attainable upgrade from moroes for your belt. Also Slikks is one of the better tanking cloaks. period. Might as well grab it and then see what you want to save for afterwards.
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Postby Valadus » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:43 pm

Time to laugh it up (no really)

Now aside from pointing out the obvious (Bracers/Boots/One Ring) any recommendations?

Right now for uncrush I'm at 91.9 with DMC:V and 93.9 with Pocket Watch, hoping for boots/bracers from kara this week and saving up badges for some of the other pieces, though I've thought about leveling BSing just for the Red Havoc Boots.

Any quick/easy upgrades to get me to uncrushable relatively quick?

Note: Switching shield out for Exalted SSO shields later today (not the best but I'm still second in line for ALD and SoID)

edit: forgot my armory http://armorylite.com/us/Blackwing+Lair/Valadus ignore the sig it hasn't updated in awhile.
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Postby Erendis » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:10 pm

Valadus wrote:Time to laugh it up (no really)

Now aside from pointing out the obvious (Bracers/Boots/One Ring) any recommendations?

Right now for uncrush I'm at 91.9 with DMC:V and 93.9 with Pocket Watch, hoping for boots/bracers from kara this week and saving up badges for some of the other pieces, though I've thought about leveling BSing just for the Red Havoc Boots.

Any quick/easy upgrades to get me to uncrushable relatively quick?

Note: Switching shield out for Exalted SSO shields later today (not the best but I'm still second in line for ALD and SoID)

edit: forgot my armory http://armorylite.com/us/Blackwing+Lair/Valadus ignore the sig it hasn't updated in awhile.


[item=29323]Andormu's Tear[/item]
[item=29184]Timewarden's Leggings[/item]
[item=23517]Felsteel Gloves[/item]

These are good starts to improving your gear. They are all easy to obtain since they are rep/crafted.

For drops [item=27529]Figurine of the Colossus[/item] goes a long ways towrads uncrushable.
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Postby Valadus » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:18 pm

Erendis wrote:
Valadus wrote:Time to laugh it up (no really)

Now aside from pointing out the obvious (Bracers/Boots/One Ring) any recommendations?

Right now for uncrush I'm at 91.9 with DMC:V and 93.9 with Pocket Watch, hoping for boots/bracers from kara this week and saving up badges for some of the other pieces, though I've thought about leveling BSing just for the Red Havoc Boots.

Any quick/easy upgrades to get me to uncrushable relatively quick?

Note: Switching shield out for Exalted SSO shields later today (not the best but I'm still second in line for ALD and SoID)

edit: forgot my armory http://armorylite.com/us/Blackwing+Lair/Valadus ignore the sig it hasn't updated in awhile.


[item=29323]Andormu's Tear[/item]
[item=29184]Timewarden's Leggings[/item]
[item=23517]Felsteel Gloves[/item]

These are good starts to improving your gear. They are all easy to obtain since they are rep/crafted.

For drops [item=27529]Figurine of the Colossus[/item] goes a long ways towrads uncrushable.


Eh can't go for Andormu's tear (I took the healing one since this was originally an alt that was a spare healer for our old guild)

How would I go about gemming the timewardens or felsteel gloves? For avoidance or raw stam?
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Postby BigBlueCheese » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:24 pm

So I was "running" heroic MgT with a pug. And we kept on wiping. We could not get passed the second boss. Not to mention we wiped on the AoE pull before the first boss. Keep in mind I've cleared it before and gotten some DPS gear (no commendation). I thought it was the healer because he would wait til my health dropped before casting his heal.

I replaced him with a guild member but we continued to wipe because his connection was laggy and the DPS seemed to be slow, at least from what I could tell.

I had stam food buffs and a fortification flask up. And wizard oil on my gavel.

Then the warlock in the party said it was my fault and that I was undergeared for the instance. Which I thought it was wierd cus' I've cleared it before with slightly worse gear (replace current belt with the Sha'tari Waistguard).

So was the warlock right? Was I undergeared for the instance?

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Postby Mishdorf » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:19 pm

Hi guys, I'm a long time lurker first time poster.

My first character was a mage who I got to 70 then got fed up with not being able to find groups with. I didn't like warrior tanking so I started a pally tank. I've had no real problems tanking from levels 1-70 (I've only respecced once and that was at around level 15).

I recently hit 70 and have been working hard to gear up. Here is my current armoury:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... &n=Orgaria

Other than the obvious flaws in my sockets (i.e. using the cheap little +9 stam gems and the like), what are the easiest upgrades to get me kara ready? I mean I have been following the stickied gear guide fairly closely, but what I want to know is what people think the fastest way to get me uncrushable is. I have been offtanking kara but even with my 3 shiny new epics I'm still around 10% away from uncrushable (3 more badges and I'll be 5% away when I get my libram).

Also, how do other tankadins get money? I'm broke at the moment after getting myself as kara ready as possible and I still don't have my flying mount. Should I just farm quests on my mage and "twink" the gold?

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EDIT: I tried running heroic slave pens last night and it was a smooth run until we hit the 5 packs which feared. We ended up unable to down Quagmire as well. Am I right in thinking that I'm geared enough to run the simpler heroics?
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Postby NarfJones » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:26 pm

BigBlueCheese wrote:So I was "running" heroic MgT with a pug. And we kept on wiping. We could not get passed the second boss. Not to mention we wiped on the AoE pull before the first boss. Keep in mind I've cleared it before and gotten some DPS gear (no commendation). I thought it was the healer because he would wait til my health dropped before casting his heal.

I replaced him with a guild member but we continued to wipe because his connection was laggy and the DPS seemed to be slow, at least from what I could tell.

I had stam food buffs and a fortification flask up. And wizard oil on my gavel.

Then the warlock in the party said it was my fault and that I was undergeared for the instance. Which I thought it was wierd cus' I've cleared it before with slightly worse gear (replace current belt with the Sha'tari Waistguard).

So was the warlock right? Was I undergeared for the instance?

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It doesn't appear as though you are too undergeared for it. I would say, though, that you'll need to be in a group of people who really know what they are doing. The lower the quality of your gear, the tighter you need to be running.
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Postby BigBlueCheese » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:37 pm

Yeah that seems right. I'm getting the chest piece this week so hopefully that'll make me tank better with a crappier group.

Edit: Quick side note. Should I save up for the 2.4 leggings or get the chestguard first? I'm not the main tank right now, if that's an issue.
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Gear Check...

Postby melord » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:18 pm

How does my stats and gear rate for SSC/TK?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... l&n=Melord (link may be cut due to the apostrophe)

I currently have 138 badges for upgrades and working out whats the best plan of attack in terms of upgrading gear.

I was thinking of getting Inscribed Legplates of the Aldor first, and then work it all out from there.
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Postby Shamora » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:48 am

So I'm mostly a solo tank (ironic I know), I don't have a guild and generally just run around with my pocket priest doing 5 mans. We just recently started doing heroics. Come this Friday I will be exalted with Shattered Sun Offensive. Of course I'm gonna be getting the shields. With all of that said I was curious if I should pick up [item=34680]Shattered Sun Pendant of Resolve[/item] or not. I currently use [item=29173]Strength of the Untamed[/item]. I should also mention that I am exalted with Aldor. Is there another necklace I should look for, like one of the badge ones, or would [item=34680]Shattered Sun Pendant of Resolve[/item] be my best bet until I get in a guild and start doing Kara and up?
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Re: Gear Check...

Postby Questioner » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:19 am

melord wrote:How does my stats and gear rate for SSC/TK?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... l&n=Melord (link may be cut due to the apostrophe)

I currently have 138 badges for upgrades and working out whats the best plan of attack in terms of upgrading gear.

I was thinking of getting Inscribed Legplates of the Aldor first, and then work it all out from there.


You are fine. If there are no alternatives, pvp for a weapon upgrade. You will need it soon. I would get the cloak from badges right now, it will last until Sunwell.
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Postby Questioner » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:28 am

Shamora wrote:Is there another necklace I should look for, like one of the badge ones, or would [item=34680]Shattered Sun Pendant of Resolve[/item] be my best bet until I get in a guild and start doing Kara and up?


It isn't a bad neck to have, especially for something like an elemental fight , but I doubt you can reliably fit it in to your 10 man tanking setup without going into crushable (with your current gear).

You might use it in 5 mans where the mobs do not crush or possibly raid trash. You neck upgrade will likely come from Maiden in Kara.
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Postby strebor » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:28 am

What heroics should I be able to tank with my gear (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Scarshield%20Legion&n=Strebor)?

BTW, depending on what I have been doing before logout, my gear on the Armory link may change between the following items (all +12 Stam gems, where applicable).
Breastplate of the Warbringer or Breastplate of Many Graces

Flesh Beast's Metal Greaves or Sha'tari Wrought Greaves

Platinum Shield of the Valorous or Petrified Lichen Guard

Using the above tanking pieces, I have 490+ Def but just shy of 10k health and 180ish spell damage. With the other items, I have over 10K health and 205 Spell damage, but only 463 Def.

I am reluctant to put enchants on my items until I have a stable set (Short of cash after paying for flying mount and trying to lvl my BS). Therefore, I do not want to use lots of gold for something I may replace in a few days. With that in mind, what items that should be enchanted ASAP?

Finally, I am grinding for items that do not require a random drop (eg Seal of the Exorcist, Gladiator's Shield Wall). Are there any items you would prioritise for replacement? I will probably never go raiding so my priorities are 5-man gear.

Sorry if some of these questions go off-topic. I started a gear check question and kept going :)
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Postby Questioner » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:47 am

Mishdorf wrote:Hi guys, I'm a long time lurker first time poster.


There is a ring in Arcatraz which would suit you well. Bracers of the Green Fortress would be nice as well, but seeing as you are broke it might be better to wait for the Vambraces of Courage from Attumen.

Using professions, farming demon hunter supplicants and daily quests are probably the best ways to make money as a tankadin.
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Postby Questioner » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:52 am

strebor wrote:Breastplate of the Warbringe, Flesh Beast's Metal, Platinum Shield of the Valorous

These are all tanking items.

The other BP is a healing chest. The other boots are dps boots you turned into tank boots. The PLG is a grinding shield.

Seal of the Exorcist is not a tanking ring.

I would suggest checking out the following thread: http://www.failsafedesign.com/maintanka ... .php?t=163
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Postby Jorex » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:03 am

Erendis wrote:
Jorex wrote:I'm the MT for my kara raid group and we are clearing it just fine. We should be moving into the 25 mans real soon.

Here is a link to my armory.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Jorex

I currently have 129 badges and will pick up the 100 badge legs as soon as the vendor is out. I was thinking my next peice after the legs should be a belt or slikk's cloak.

Which belt should I get?

Should I have the belt of the guardian made or purchase either iron-tusk girdle or girdle of the protector?

Thanks for the help.


I'd go with the Slikks cloak as you have an easily attainable upgrade from moroes for your belt. Also Slikks is one of the better tanking cloaks. period. Might as well grab it and then see what you want to save for afterwards.


So you think the Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable is comparable to the other 3 belts and that I shouldn't go for them?
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Postby Elvidnir » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:18 am

Indomitable will be your best option at that level for uncrush stats, personally I wear the crafted belt and make it up in other slots. Now that Vortices are badge fodder it's much easier to get a belt made than before.
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Postby Ciandin » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:18 am

I'd rather spend gold on a belt of the guardian and spend badges elsewhere. That way, you can get two upgrades simultaneously instead of one now and one later. Keep in mind the Crimson Girdle is great for uncrushable, so don't toss that right away.
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Postby Erendis » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:25 am

Ciandin wrote:I'd rather spend gold on a belt of the guardian and spend badges elsewhere. That way, you can get two upgrades simultaneously instead of one now and one later. Keep in mind the Crimson Girdle is great for uncrushable, so don't toss that right away.


Agreed.
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Postby Fendorn » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:45 am

Curious as to what I should be looking to get for Trinkets and Cloak. Haven't really found anything that is helping too much. Looking to start working on the BV which is currently at 468. Any advise is appreciated.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion%20Circle&n=Fendorn
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Postby Seloei » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:10 am

Devilshark is superb for a block value set. It has loads of avoidance and block value. If you really want more block value on trinkets, then there is only one : Badge one.

If your mainly doing heroics, block values good but the raid bosses tend to hit for a lot more than 2k per hit.
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