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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Taeron » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:29 am

With the chest tier token... would it be a lot better to pick up a retribution piece or would it be just as fine going for the tank piece (parry/dodge, sigh) and get the 2 piece bonus?

I mean... stats on retri piece seem optimal for our current situation but I feel... wrong, picking up a retri piece.

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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Fetzie » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:03 pm

I'm going to get the ret chest when I get a token.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:04 pm

Is my stamina acceptable for 10N ToT?
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sagara » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:43 pm

Yeah. Jin'Rok and Megaera tend to hit a bit hard, but everything else up to Dumuru mainly use a "huge nuke incoming!" mechanic that ShotR and/or cooldowns can handle.
You may run into trouble on Megaera, but that's not a given, and my attempts on her 10M version were pre-nerf, so it's not *that* certain.
Maybe you could lay your hand on a Niuzao trinket, just in case?
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:33 am

I do have it, just normally only use it on raids. For everything else, I use my str trinket just for lulz
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sagara » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:50 am

Klaud, I like you a lot. A whole lot actually.

But, SERIOUSLY, you HAD to ask us for opinions on your Stamina level while NOT wearing your USUAL STAMINA trinkets? :lol:

I'll just leave that for you to use:
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:53 am

I forgot I was not wearing it, ok? :? :oops:

There, that should do it.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sagara » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:27 am

Yeah, you'll be fine.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Gab » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:42 am

Your health is fine. IIRC I was 507 item level with the same trinkets (although my DMC was 2/2) and similar gemming priority (haste). I was good up to pre nerf Megara, where we had a little trouble with tank deaths, although a lot of that is because we have had to pick up 3 "new" healers for this tier...

Like Segara said, nearly everything dangerous is heavily telegraphed/predictable. Triple Puncture, Snapping Bite, Talon Rake, Arterial Cut etc... So ShoR and CD usage is much more important than reaching some magical stamina threshold.

Curious, why are you gemming Quick eyes though. You'd get better results gemming Solid eyes and just regular Quicks considering secondary eyes don't get the increased MOP itemization weight.

Solid Eye: 480 (2x "normal" stam gem)
Solid River's Heart: 240

Quick Eye: 480 (1.5x "normal" haste gem)
Quick Sun's Radiance: 320

If you swapped out two of your Forceful's and replaced them with Solid eyes and then replaced the Quick eyes with Quick sun's you'd be looking at a 720 stam increase that would only cost you 640 haste.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:40 am

That's the thing, I was gemmed mostly stamina before, but I wanna try something out for next week vs horridon, I noticed the adds were not sticking to me as much as I would like them to, and I aint talking about the ones in door 3 that go all over the place.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sagara » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:28 am

Adds on door 3 are random fixate. Focus on the warlords.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:57 pm

Klaudandus wrote:I aint talking about the ones in door 3 that go all over the place.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sagara » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:11 pm

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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:33 pm

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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby ulushnar » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:47 am

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After 2-3 weeks running LFR as Ret, and having fixed outstanding issues with my internet connection, I'm ready to give raid tanking a go. To that end with the aid of AMR (with some modification of the Stamina weight), I've regemmed, enchanted and forged my gear towards haste-based tankage. I've obviously not been able to get a decent tanking weapon yet, although I've still got the second half of MGV and HoF to run this week. Am I going to be embarrasing myself if I try to tank the ToT instances like this?
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Schroom » Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:49 am

Hi, we are starting HMs ToT tonight and I'm quite of undecided.

at the moment I go for an allround-set of Stamina/CoHa means: I gem
Red: Exp
Yellow/Blue: sta+Ha

usually I run with the Ji-kun trinket reforged into haste and "Lei Shen's Final Orders" NM.

here is my armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/z ... m/advanced (don't mind the Loa-Shen trinket imagine Lei Shen's final Orders in here)


now my question is this. for the HMs should I rather stay as I am, go to full out Hastegems and use stamina trinkets or should I got full out stamina with gems/trinkets and so on?

PS: doing 10 man btw
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby daishan » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:48 am

For Jin I don't think it matters which gearing strat you use, though I was struggling to make the most of my dps without pulling aggro back while off tanking in the water, ended up turning RF off and on.
On Horridon it's all down to SotR timing if your on the boss, get that right and there's no need to have more than 700k fully buffed (I ran with haste/armour elixirs as uasual).
It's a little hard for me to double check on my phone but are you sure using exp/haste hybrids wouldn't allow for more efficient reforges?
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Schroom » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:02 am

daishan wrote: are you sure using exp/haste hybrids wouldn't allow for more efficient reforges?


instead of? the pure Exp gems? maybe... if you mean the haste/sta gems, I just like stamina ^^ it saved my lifes several times when I thought o sh*** damn down to 3% healt -> LoH instead of being dead :>
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby daishan » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:08 am

Ye ment in the red sockets, should allow you to move more mast/avoidance into haste I think.
Same as you I like a little stam in blue sockets, plus it's hard enough getting under hit cap without gemming it.

Edit:
I've not done many pulls on Tortos and Ji'kun yet but feel Tortos for sure and maybe Ji will want more stam than I run, depending on which tactic we use. I've been thinking Tortos might even benefit from an avoidance set with 8 bats up for a good % of the fight.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Schroom » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:15 am

mh have to try. I just went to ask mr robot (which I rarely use.. I prefer other sources) to double check and they also suggest full Exp gems. I remember doing what you mean about 2-3 weeks ago and I ended up having to reforge haste into exp. (especially after replacing the ji-kun trinket, I'm waiting for Horridon and lei Shen to be nice and give me their trinkets)
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby daishan » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:21 am

I like AMR but often find I can squeeze out a little more of the stats I want by gemming by hand then using reforger lite, make sure to hit the show button several times as it doesn't always get it perfect first time.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sagara » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:51 am

Seapking of which: I'm currently balls to the walls with Stam, but I'm wondering about shifting priority slightly to haste (haste gem for yellow, haste/exp for red and ahste/stam for blue). BTW, we're progressing in 25 men, now at Iron Qon.

Worth it?

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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:03 am

is it safe to assume that the cloak to get from valor points is the haste/mastery one?
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sagara » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:23 am

Yeah, the other is dodge/hit
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Hayt » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:01 am

Hi Everyone

Long time lurker and I find myself in need of a quick reality check (or a full fledged restructuring of perspective :/ ) because the haste/control build is sexy but also not in my comfort zone theory-wise.

I am MT for my guilds 2nd 10 man group and never do 25m content....mostly because we are an empty server and 2-night casual raiders.

My darling: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/b ... t/advanced

I am trying to follow the control/haste method and have a deep dread that I am just doing it all wrong. The fact that my entire guild does not seem to agree/accept that haste is valid for us does not help my nerves.

Anyways - my three questions are

Am I hurting myself by using haste instead of haste/stam?
Am I hurting myself by not focusing on exp 15% hard cap?
Am I asking the right questions?

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