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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Fenrìr » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:38 am

minifreak88 wrote:Alright, I hope no one laughs. I was derping on askmrrobot and this is what it told me to do. I think it's pretty cool and i'm still at avoidance cap without buffs (I'm just nit picky like that >.< i know i should probably reforge to some hit or something) but I still feel like i'm taking a lot of damage. is it just because of my health being so high or what? should i go back to some hybrid gems?

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/d ... e/advanced



Wow...you are so far over the CtC capped once buffed it's not even funny how much wasted stats you have.

There is no such thing as too much health unless you are not at tCTC. I personally hate AMR because you really cannot get it to even agree with itself which is why I like Chardev better. If you feel like you're taking too much dmg, you're probably not rotating your CDs are the more opportune times (IE: after stomp on morloot, right before lazer beam of hahainyourface on Zonozz, 5 stacks of void bolt on Yor'sahj the snoozefest, etc).

If you're a stam stacking kind of tank, then honestly, drop Resolve of Undying (not only because it's a terrible trinket, but because it's a terrible trinket) for Indom Pride or even a H Scales of Life. It'll still keep you over tCTC with complete stam gems. We are not warriors, we get ~zero~ benefit for being over tCTC in a raid environment and you will always have those buffs unless for some unknown reason you die. Even then, if you do die, the only buff you're going to lose is your food buff because your raid should instantly be rebuffing you once you pop up. You should never discount those buffs because you will always have them. 80% of the damage to be concerned about is unavoidable anyway, making tCTC pointless (yes, it's a randomly number, but the point is that the vast majority of damage is unavoidable and still requires a CD just like the avoidable/blockable stuff). So more stam is beneficial. You would gain almost 11k hp by using H Indom Pride which is more beneficial than you being almost 4% over tCTC with buffs.

However, you can just as easily run 8% hit/26 exp and still be fine. You would barely notice the drop in your health (5-6k max even with a stam trinket to replace the horrible Resolve).
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Shoju » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:31 am

WoW.... Am I seeing this right?

104.98 sitting there,
with no stacks of resolve of the undying?
No Food
No Flask
No Elixirs?

Holy crap. Do you have a stam trinket?
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Antaka » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:33 am

well after getting heroic trinket last night im just confused what to do, guess i will need to change some stamina gems in to mastery+stamina

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/n ... aka/simple


at the moment without buffs, food, flask, i have 98.14 avoidance.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Gab » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:17 am

Antaka wrote:well after getting heroic trinket last night im just confused what to do, guess i will need to change some stamina gems in to mastery+stamina

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/n ... aka/simple


at the moment without buffs, food, flask, i have 98.14 avoidance.


If you are at 98.14 unbuffed then you are probably very close to 102.4 buffed, depending on which consumeables you are using. Try importing your toon to chardev.org and set up your buffs (Kings/Mark and one of the str/agi buffs) and consumeables (Food and Flask/Elixirs). That should show you how close to 102.4 you are and then you can tinker with reforging and gems.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sizzwizz » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:48 pm

Need some advice on reforging as I dont truely trust askmrrobot.

I tank heroics but heal LFR and BGs.

I need a new helm...waiting for LFR one to drop. Shield is crappy too, I'll get the twilight heroics on eventually as well. And 333 trink/weap needs to be updated as well.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/a ... wer/simple

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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:10 pm

I'm trying to improve my dps stunt gear as a tank
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/f ... dus/simple

Was thinking of switching just about all Parry+Mastery for Expertise+Mastery and my Parry+Stam for Expertise+Stam (I am getting the Heroic DPS T13 Shoulder) -- my HP would be around 212K with all the changes and most buffs included and still be at 102.4%

I accidentally tanked all 6/8 in my current dps stunt gear, but with different trinkets
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Schroom » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:52 pm

what I feel, is a pretty good choice to reach Exp. cap withtout wasting to many stats is wearing the heroic Firelands neckpiece and the heroic Shannox Belt. Then switch 3 Red socket gems to Exp /stamina should be enough:
like I do:http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/character/die-silberne-hand/Schroom/advanced
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:35 am

We never did heroic firelands, so I have no access to those items =P
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Marilee » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:49 am

Howdy! So simple question: when the patch hits this week and I log in for the first time and dash off to the reforger, what should be my reforging goals? :) From reading threads here and various blogs sounds like maybe soft cap hit and expertise, and then favor parry over dodge? But I haven't found a good source of where mastery falls in the scheme of things and how I should aim re: that. I really hate math. I'm sure many other people who are just casual readers of this site have the same question.

Thanks in advance for your advice and patience. <3
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sagara » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:44 am

I'll give it a rough shot, and I hope people will help me help you :)

Globally, Theck seems to imply that there are globally two groups of stats that reinforce other stats in their group but weaken stats in the other:
Parry/Dodge (favoring Parry) is the TDR approach: damage stays spiky, but you'll take the least damage on average.
On the other hand, you could focus on exploiting ShoTR and WOG by focusing on Mastery/Hit/Expertise. Of the three, HIT/EXP have he weakest TDR, but they grant control by smoothing out HoPo generation.

So we're globally in a situation where we trade power (higher TDR) for control. With current content not challenging mana healer overmuch, control seems more appropriate. In short:

1) Safe route: Cap EXP/Hit, spam Mastery.
2) Experimentation route: Spam Mastery, and if you find yourself wanting to hit ShoTR/WoG more often, increase hit/exp as needed.
3) TDR route: focus on Parry/Dodge, with a rough 2:1 ratio.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby benebarba » Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:49 pm

Sagara wrote:I'll give it a rough shot, and I hope people will help me help you :)

Globally, Theck seems to imply that there are globally two groups of stats that reinforce other stats in their group but weaken stats in the other:
Parry/Dodge (favoring Parry) is the TDR approach: damage stays spiky, but you'll take the least damage on average.
On the other hand, you could focus on exploiting ShoTR and WOG by focusing on Mastery/Hit/Expertise. Of the three, HIT/EXP have he weakest TDR, but they grant control by smoothing out HoPo generation.

So we're globally in a situation where we trade power (higher TDR) for control. With current content not challenging mana healer overmuch, control seems more appropriate. In short:

1) Safe route: Cap EXP/Hit, spam Mastery.
2) Experimentation route: Spam Mastery, and if you find yourself wanting to hit ShoTR/WoG more often, increase hit/exp as needed.
3) TDR route: focus on Parry/Dodge, with a rough 2:1 ratio.


I'm largely with Sagara.

But... if you're raiding DS, I have my doubts as to if going for the dodge/parry route is worthwhile if you do it at the cost of stamina. My reasoning is that I believe much of the 'killer damage' (at least what of it remains) won't be much helped by parry, which will probably end up being at least twice what your dodge percentage is, just because of how they scale (and how strength plays into it). We won't be blocking as often as we used to (looks to be about half as much), but now our mastery will be all about our active mitigation and our WOG boost.

Personally (ilvl 397 geared, DS normal/heroic mix), I'm going to keep my stam-heavy gem scheme but use reforging and re-gemming to get my 7.5% hit and expertise then reforge such that dodge gets converted to parry or mastery. May not be optimal, but the health buffer hopefully will give me a bit more breathing room as I get used to the AM mechanics.

I think in the 5-mans, a similar approach may not hurt - though I think there, parry may yield more benefits than in DS... but I have absolutely no math to back that up.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Marilee » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:19 pm

Ah thanks you two. I was trying to herpderp my way through the Theck blog post on exp+hit vs dodge+parry and wasn't doing well, but your summary makes sense. :) I'm going to go with capping exp+hit and then stacking mastery and stam.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Sagara » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:48 pm

I've tried something similar this weekend, we'll see how it pans out this week. Control does seem more valuable.

To touch bene's remark: we indeed shouldn't sacrifice stamina. In fact, an even MORE stamina-focused approach would be viable (as in, double-stam trinkets), especially if your healing team tends to panic easily. The "mana sponge" problem of druids isn't as acute with the three-heal model.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby Schroom » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:05 am

yes, I aswell belive that stam is a lot more important again than mitigation, as you can't be blockcaped.
so I will also go for Stam->hit->exp->mastery-> parry->dodge

and see how it will play out.
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Re: Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests H

Postby benebarba » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:36 am

Schroom wrote:yes, I aswell belive that stam is a lot more important again than mitigation, as you can't be blockcaped.
so I will also go for Stam->hit->exp->mastery-> parry->dodge

and see how it will play out.

And of course I sold my soulshifter vortex after getting indomitable pride this week... to battle.net to see if I can get it back! :p
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