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Postby agnara » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:24 pm

Invisusira wrote:Am I ready to tank Prince?

No, you got too low spelldmg :P
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Postby Lothlan » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:37 pm

I'll go second I guess. Only been 70 for a little under three weeks. Armory is linked below. Got lucky last Kara :D

Our usual tank Full T4 druid has re-rolled a warrior to MT since we didn't have a reliable one who is also just 70 so I'm having to MT Kara tonight. Just want to make sure I look fine for Nightbane/Prince :)
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Postby guillex » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:46 pm

Lothlan wrote:I'll go second I guess. Only been 70 for a little under three weeks. Armory is linked below. Got lucky last Kara :D

Our usual tank Full T4 druid has re-rolled a warrior to MT since we didn't have a reliable one who is also just 70 so I'm having to MT Kara tonight. Just want to make sure I look fine for Nightbane/Prince :)


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Postby Sithy » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:54 pm

omg, pick me, pick me!

http://armorylite.com/us/Icecrown/Sithie
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... n&n=Sithie

Can I tank... um something? :D

What pieces would be a decent upgrade?
(And don't say gloves because Champion only drops for my other characters.)
I do have Unwavering and Stoic Guardian, I'm in my tanking SD set atm though.
Thinking the new badge legs and ring, nothing else really stands out as "OMG GET ME".
Think I should get a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30034 made? With vortex's from badges I'm sure I can find a crafter among my friends in other guilds.
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Postby Lothlan » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:07 pm

Hey Sil, I've got the belt and love it, just don't have the supporting gear yet to use it with stuff that can crush me :(

Adds some nice stam and the SD is nice.
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Postby Kelaan » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:11 pm

Guillex wrote:It's all situational. Plus, in Kelaan's case, he/she's not even uncrit yet ... and the Untamed will do MUCH more in terms of reaching that first goal than the Chain will.


Guillex wrote:While stacking Block Rating is the quickest way to reach uncrushable, you're really aiming towards uncrittable right now. It's going to help you the most in 5mans... And is easier to get to than uncrushable is.


Thank you for the reality check. (: I had lost sight of that. In that case, I really should have my Mark of the Ravenguard on until I get the Revered neckpiece, since the +defense will help me avoid being critted, right?

(also, it's a He. ;))
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Postby guillex » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:14 pm

Kelaan wrote:
Guillex wrote:It's all situational. Plus, in Kelaan's case, he/she's not even uncrit yet ... and the Untamed will do MUCH more in terms of reaching that first goal than the Chain will.


Guillex wrote:While stacking Block Rating is the quickest way to reach uncrushable, you're really aiming towards uncrittable right now. It's going to help you the most in 5mans... And is easier to get to than uncrushable is.


Thank you for the reality check. (: I had lost sight of that. In that case, I really should have my Mark of the Ravenguard on until I get the Revered neckpiece, since the +defense will help me avoid being critted, right?

(also, it's a He. ;))


Yessir. Be 485 defense for normal/heroics (though 490 is a bit better for the heroic dungeons), and then start working on uncrushability... Once you have your defense capped (ie: 485/490), it's easier to see where you can juggle avoidance/mitigation/stamina instead of defense.

Take this:

You're sitting at 102.4%, but are still 489 defense... You're gonna get critted in raids, bar none.

But, if you're sitting at 500 defense, and are 2% crushable ... you have a bit of room to play around with your defense rating (about 10 points) so that you can make up that uncrushable, and still be uncrittable.

See what I mean? (Rough numbers, I know...)
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Postby Erendis » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:31 pm

Ok, I guess I'll be next.

Here is my armory link Karura.

My guild is currently gearing people up to start running our own 25 man raids. We are looking at doing Gruuls, Magtheridon and maybe poking our noses into SSC and TK for the early bosses. Am I ready to start tanking at that level?? I have tanked all of Kara, the first two bosses of ZA and been OT/Hatefull Strike tank for Gruuls with no issues.

What upgrades should I be looking for next. I know the PvP mace would be an upgrade but I hate PvP so my motivation fades after 1-2 BGs. So other than that what else should I be looking for the most?
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Postby guillex » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:19 pm

Erendis wrote:Ok, I guess I'll be next.

Here is my armory link Karura.

My guild is currently gearing people up to start running our own 25 man raids. We are looking at doing Gruuls, Magtheridon and maybe poking our noses into SSC and TK for the early bosses. Am I ready to start tanking at that level?? I have tanked all of Kara, the first two bosses of ZA and been OT/Hatefull Strike tank for Gruuls with no issues.

What upgrades should I be looking for next. I know the PvP mace would be an upgrade but I hate PvP so my motivation fades after 1-2 BGs. So other than that what else should I be looking for the most?


If you're doing the first two bosses of ZA ... try for a timed chest run, and hopefully you'll get the Pauldrons of Stone Resolve.

Also, get the Amani Punisher from the eagle boss.

Try and get the shield changed ... Either the one from ZA (Bulwark of the Amani Empire off of Akil'zon), or an ALD from Gruul's.

If I were you, I'd actually change the enchant on your cloak to either Defense or Dodge, if you can get either on your server. That should give you some wiggle room with gems for more stam.

Try for Maiden's gauntlets, as they're a better MT piece.
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Postby SSJPred » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:17 pm

I'm looking to start tanking Kara..

Does it look like I would be effective at doing the job?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... &n=Ssjpred
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Postby Erendis » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:46 pm

Thanks Guillex! Those items were pretty much what I've been gunning for. Glad to know I'm on the right track.

On a side note: It's been a bear trying to find someone to do Dodge to cloak. Might just have to wait 'till my buddy gets the defense enchant as I like that better anyways,
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Postby randomjibberish » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:46 pm

http://armorylite.com/us/blackrock/gourmet
(The armory isnt updated and I use the battleworn tuskguard for raid tanking)

[item=28516]Barbed Choker of Discipline[/item]
[item=34680]Shattered Sun Pendant of Resolve[/item]
[item=30099]Frayed Tether of the Drowned[/item]

I currently have the Barbed Choker and the SSO pendant, however the Frayed Tether is obtainable. So a few questions:

1. Between the Barbed Choker and the SSO pendant, which would you prefer, and in which situations?
2. Is the Frayed Tether worth investing DKP in?
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Postby Aseirak » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:59 am

hi may i know what i SHOULD not be tanking apart from BT MH in my current gear.. ...

i know i need to upgrade but loot hasnt been kind to me. thanks for ur help in advance.

but i guess i rarely need to MT anything.. jus asking in case of any scenario.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/chara ... &n=Aseirak
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Postby Kozue » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:06 am

Anyways, I tried tanking Prince for the 1st time tonight. We wiped 3 times or so, not sure if it was me being undergeared to blame, or what. So far, a full clear of Kara has yielded nothing but gears to our Priest which has been really painful to my gear progression. But anyways... question is:

Am I geared enough to tank Prince, or should I hold back before trying again?
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Postby Radon » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:54 am

Hello,
- With the latest stuff i got from za, i felt uncomfortable with the decrease in my spell damage (292 unbuffed). So before i test it out in MH, i'd like to get some comments on it. Around what +spell do i need in t6 content ?
(i have t5 helm, t4 shoulders that i can replace with ZA helm&shoulders to increase +spell.)

- Do you suggest pocket watch over aqir artifact ?

- I'm unsure about +spell hit vs +spell crit. Do you suggest me using Amani Punisher or Fang of the Leviathan ?

http://armory.wow-europe.com/character- ... Co&n=Radon

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How far?

Postby puppies » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:04 am

Hi,

Guild are starting to push into Hyjal and thinking about BT - I dont get to raid too often due to RL but at the moment I'm still the only full time prot specced pala in the guild. Question is based on current gear how far do you think I can tnak thorugh MH and BT?

Links are current with no buffs

http://armorylite.com/eu/stormreaver/puppies/
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Puppies

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Postby Shayna » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:54 am

Hi!

My friends want me to tank heroics for them, but to be honest I'm not sure if my gear is up for it.
I've tanked HC Ramparts, Blood Furnace and Mechanar so far, no real problems, but I'm afraid I'm gonna get a real beating in any harder heroics.
What do I need to improve, and how?
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Postby Kelaan » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:23 am

Guillex wrote:(If) You're sitting at 102.4%, but are still 489 defense... You're gonna get critted in raids, bar none.


You are? Wouldn't the crits get pushed off the table as well as the crushes? I had thought that uncrushable implied uncrittable (and not just because most of the uncrushable gear has tons of defense). Anywho, I have a friend who can make me some defense armor kits, which I can replace some of the +8 stam kits I have on things like chest/gloves/feet.
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Postby NarfJones » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:41 am

Kelaan wrote:
Guillex wrote:(If) You're sitting at 102.4%, but are still 489 defense... You're gonna get critted in raids, bar none.


You are? Wouldn't the crits get pushed off the table as well as the crushes? I had thought that uncrushable implied uncrittable (and not just because most of the uncrushable gear has tons of defense). Anywho, I have a friend who can make me some defense armor kits, which I can replace some of the +8 stam kits I have on things like chest/gloves/feet.


Not necessarily. Crits are pushed off the attack table, but with the 10 second duration and cooldown of holy shield, it's impossible to have it up 100% of the time. And since some bosses already hit for half your life, it's not a good idea.
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Postby xaviermagnus » Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:31 am

Am I kara ready?

If not suggestions....

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Overall thoughts?

Postby Blindsay » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:54 pm

Been a lurker and i finally decided to join

nice to meet everyone, been reading alot of the posts its helped alot with my gear thus far, was just curious if anyone had any addition input to a few things ive come across.

1. My Stats - With kings up and nothing else
17,137HP
492 Defense
19.88% Dodge, 15.68% Parry, 56.28% block (with HS)
102.52 total avoidence (with holy shield up) (without kings its 102.12)
358 spell dmg (400 with wizard oil on my 1h)
5418 Mana

link to armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... n=Blindsay

Any suggestions to my MT gear would be apprecaited, i plan on getting the Ring the Drops off of tidewalker in SSC, and the one that drops off the trash in TK, and the necklace from maiden in Kara. Also i have to turn in my furies deck so i can get that card. Those are the upgrades i want to get in the short term, oh and the shield from gruul but it never drops lol.

My trash gear is as follows (still with kings)
14,657HP
500 Defense
18.37% Dodge, 17.31% Parry, 49.37% block (with HS)
96.07% total avoidence, to help with getting mana back
approx 600 spell dmg (with flasks food etc) + Libram of Divine Purpose
6828 Mana


all in all things are comming along well, i enjoy tanking but some key members of my guild hate pally tanks They say my MT gear is not good enough for SSC or TK, hell i have to fight for them to even let me tank in Kara. They say pally tanks arent as good as a Warrior so i get 2nd seat to them even if im substantially better geared. We were wiping on tidewalker alot cause the warrior would lose shield block then get crushed. I just want to help my guild progress further and i feel that i can. But they want me to heal cause thats what pallys do..... ironically enough my tanking gear is better then my healing gear too (+1650ish healing unbuffed)


but yeah any thoughts advice and input would be appreciated, and thanks for taking the time to read this
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Postby Uthor » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:29 am

Hello dear Maintankadin forum that I visit everytime I can.

I need some help when it comes to choosing what to buy next for badges.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... as&n=Uthor

I need to know what would be the biggest upgrade for me with badges
(I mainly only do Heroics and karazhan and I messed up my talent spec when I had respecced from ret to tank Mr.T ) and I'm thinking about the Iron-Tusk waist belt.

I also plan to replace the enchants on cloak+chest to defense rating and replace Adamantite Figure for the trinket from Heroic Mr.T that I never remember the name on .

I'm sorry for any spelling errors since English is not my native language.
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Postby Infernosaint » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:05 am

Hey.

http://armory.wow-europe.com/character- ... j&n=Orthon

I would like to know what to go for now.

Im thinking about buying the badge cloak and get defence on it, then go hc MgT and get the trinket from princess and shoulders from hc AC or netherspite.(whichever comes first)

is this a plan? and how much more do i need to tank ZA?

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Am I ready to tank Heroics?

Postby Chantix » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:41 am

I've recently respec'd Prot, after being Holy for most of the time, for the guild I'm in. It's mostly just a small guild with a bunch of RL friends, and we're wanting to start running heroics. I'm not yet uncrushable, but roughly ~6% off. Which upgrades/gems/enchants should I look for to get there? Right now, the cloak from SV is on the very top of my list, but I've run SV so many times and it has yet to drop, my guild is begging me to stop asking them to run it. How far off am I from being able to OT, or even MT in Kara? I'm sure the same upgrades would apply.

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Postby Dorvan » Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:55 am

As a suggestion, if you'd like others to review your armory, return the favor and toss some ideas someone else's way.
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