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Postby safetyguy14 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:44 pm

http://www.armorylite.com/us/mug%27thol/masondin

Hi Guys!

I currently OT SSC/GRUUL/TK very successfully and MT 3.5 hour clears of kara. I have 115 badges laying around and our 2.4 vendor should pop in the next day or two. What do you think would be the best way to spend my badges? My gut is telling me 75 badge chest + slikk's cloak but those 100 badge pants are tasty. Also I hate my boots :). Help me spend my badges!!!

Thanks to all in advance. I also have t4 gloves, scarab of displacement, and some other blue defense trinkets laying around too.
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Postby Dinedan » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:59 pm

Sithy wrote:Good luck in ZA, you look like you'd fair alright, watch out for the 2 pulls before bear boss and bear himself, they hit like trucks. Keep Dev up always!


Thanks Sithy - my armory has me in my "Dailies Set" so I have a couple other pieces. Kara hates me - no NB Shield, Maiden Neck, Aran Ring, T4 Helm, NS Shoulders - in 8 months of clears.

I have done the first 2 bosses in ZA in PuGs so I know how hard they hit. I once managed to scrape up a PuG of my own to go in but in the double rider pull, the other tank kept dying and then I would have 2 on me - hard to last long that way. My guild is being cautious - too cautious for me - about going to ZA without being fully geared from Kara. I think we can kill the first 2 bosses no problem - hopefully I am right.
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Postby etherboy » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:05 pm

http://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/46710

My gear setup...

My questions:
-Can I tank Heroics? (I have some pieces like Uther's boots for higher threat/lower mitigation)
-Could I reasonably MT Kara (I have done 3 runs of Kara, and OT'd)
-My bracers need replacing - Green Fortress?

Appreciate any input!
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Postby GothicPL » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:34 pm

etherboy wrote:http://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/46710

My gear setup...

My questions:
-Can I tank Heroics? (I have some pieces like Uther's boots for higher threat/lower mitigation)
-Could I reasonably MT Kara (I have done 3 runs of Kara, and OT'd)
-My bracers need replacing - Green Fortress?

Appreciate any input!


I think you're fine for the first half of Kara and easy heroics such as SP.

You should try to upgrade your shield if you want to MT Prince and Nightbane, or AOE tank heroics with no CC. Of course, this depends on your healers as well, but you will feel a huge difference with an epic shield that has more armor and BV.

Bracer of Green Fortress, heroic Arc bracers or bracers of Attumen are all good upgrades for you. I personally have had great mileage out of BoGF, they last a while.

But still, shield upgrade should come first.
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Postby Tandors » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:07 pm

How about me? How far could I go in like T5 stuff assuming equally geared healers?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arthas&n=Tandors

BTW I know about my shoulders. ZA hates me, my guild hasn't downed VR since the patch and my T4 shoulders always seem to either not drop or get stolen.
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Postby etherboy » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:24 pm

GothicPL wrote:
etherboy wrote:http://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/46710

My gear setup...

My questions:
-Can I tank Heroics? (I have some pieces like Uther's boots for higher threat/lower mitigation)
-Could I reasonably MT Kara (I have done 3 runs of Kara, and OT'd)
-My bracers need replacing - Green Fortress?

Appreciate any input!


I think you're fine for the first half of Kara and easy heroics such as SP.

You should try to upgrade your shield if you want to MT Prince and Nightbane, or AOE tank heroics with no CC. Of course, this depends on your healers as well, but you will feel a huge difference with an epic shield that has more armor and BV.

Bracer of Green Fortress, heroic Arc bracers or bracers of Attumen are all good upgrades for you. I personally have had great mileage out of BoGF, they last a while.

But still, shield upgrade should come first.


I'm working on Sha'tar rep, and Netherwing Protector quest line...

But what shield is fairly easily attainable that is worthwhile...
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Postby Er » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:45 pm

Hey all, new to the site and I figured you all could give me a hand.

http://armorylite.com/us/Eredar/Er

Right now I'm currently working on starting SSC/TK progression and I want to know if I'm doing alright in terms of min-maxing. I want to be able to push my man to the limits.

I guess I have 2 questions:
1. I need to get my hands on more avoidance. Currently we're able to clear the 4 aspects, Gruul and Kara (yippie.) While I'm uncrushable, I want to know if there is some gear somewhere I can get that'll boost my STAM and avoidance, preferably at the same time :D. Really, any recommended gear changes are welcome.

2. What sort of threat generation should I be looking at, if anyone has some way to figure that out or remembers. I've had some really odd problems with threat, where I'll have about 500 on some targets and jump up to 900-1200 against other things (even without exorcism.) Anyone have any idea whats causing this?

I guess that's about it. I had something else on my mind but it slipped me. Thanks a bunch gents, ladies. :)
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Postby Eirny » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:12 pm

etherboy wrote:
GothicPL wrote:
etherboy wrote:http://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/46710

My gear setup...

My questions:
-Can I tank Heroics? (I have some pieces like Uther's boots for higher threat/lower mitigation)
-Could I reasonably MT Kara (I have done 3 runs of Kara, and OT'd)
-My bracers need replacing - Green Fortress?

Appreciate any input!


I think you're fine for the first half of Kara and easy heroics such as SP.

You should try to upgrade your shield if you want to MT Prince and Nightbane, or AOE tank heroics with no CC. Of course, this depends on your healers as well, but you will feel a huge difference with an epic shield that has more armor and BV.

Bracer of Green Fortress, heroic Arc bracers or bracers of Attumen are all good upgrades for you. I personally have had great mileage out of BoGF, they last a while.

But still, shield upgrade should come first.


I'm working on Sha'tar rep, and Netherwing Protector quest line...

But what shield is fairly easily attainable that is worthwhile...


I used [Platinum Shield of the Valorous] from the first boss in SLabs until I finished my Sha'tar grind. Fairly easy to get to, and doesn't even really take a whole group if you have a couple of geared friends just doing farming runs.
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Postby Wakeman » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:37 am

safetyguy14 wrote:http://www.armorylite.com/us/mug%27thol/masondin

Hi Guys!

I currently OT SSC/GRUUL/TK very successfully and MT 3.5 hour clears of kara. I have 115 badges laying around and our 2.4 vendor should pop in the next day or two. What do you think would be the best way to spend my badges? My gut is telling me 75 badge chest + slikk's cloak but those 100 badge pants are tasty. Also I hate my boots :). Help me spend my badges!!!

Thanks to all in advance. I also have t4 gloves, scarab of displacement, and some other blue defense trinkets laying around too.



Good health and armor. However, your problem is you are VERY crushable at the moment. Mainly because your block is too low. You probably need to trade some stamina gear (e.g. goblin rocket launcher) for avoidance/blocking gear. I suggest you check the stickies for tips to get uncrushable.

Chest is probably the 1st thing you should buy with BoJ. Then cloak and maybe a tanking ring.

Good luck!


[edit] oh, almost forget..... Read my signature! :P
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Postby Xavior » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:37 am

http://www.armorylite.com/us/Shattered+Hand/odinä

Hi guys,

I'm still not uncrushable yet.
Problem is, i've tons of purple gears yet...

Please advise...
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Postby ulushnar » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:40 am

Xavior wrote:http://www.armorylite.com/us/Shattered+Hand/odinä

Hi guys,

I'm still not uncrushable yet.
Problem is, i've tons of purple gears yet...

Please advise...


And your profile shows T5/ZA level healing gear!
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Postby Wakeman » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:55 am

Xavior wrote:http://www.armorylite.com/us/Shattered+Hand/odinä

Hi guys,

I'm still not uncrushable yet.
Problem is, i've tons of purple gears yet...

Please advise...



lol, try click on your own link. I almost thought you was joking because it linked to a holy pally! Then I added back the "ä" and it showed the right page. That's why I always say having special character in the names is not a clever thing.


Ok, back to the topic. Your gear have a lot of room for improvement. Get Flesh Beast boots. Replace commander badge (or even darkmoon card) with avoidance/block trinkets until you are uncrushable. Get Felsteel helm, or Tankatronic goggles if u have the gold. Get Bracers of the green fortress if you have the gold.

Some of your gems are wrong. Red should be +8 dodge, instead of parry. Yellow = +def and/or stam gem, not agi or hit.

Wrist, gloves enchant should be +sta or def. Enchant boot 12 sta after u get Flesh beast boots. Consider chest +15 def, which is better than 150hp for u. Consider +12 def meta gem if u are still not uncrushable after the above changes.

You can check the stickies for list of good avoidance/blocking gear.

Good luck!
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Postby Aedan » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:34 am

Newcomer here, just wanted to pop by and say thanks to everyone here for the awesome suggestions (though for a while power-leveling engineering, I may have said some rather uncouth things to the contrary).

http://armorylite.com/us/Anetheron/aedan

That should have all my current tank gear up atm. Now, I just got the wrists right before I logged last night, thus no gem. This weekend is the Bot->Mech->Arc portion of our quest for the keys, so I'll grab the Sha'tari Vindicator's Belt no problem, and the follow-up in Black Morass will bump me just over Revered with KoT for my legs and head enchant. Aside from grabbing Flesh Beast's on a quick MT run, and hoping the SV run for the key frag bumps me into revered with CE for my neck, any recommendations?

I'm going to be splitting tanking duties with our guild leader (gearin him up for the switch to prot) once we hit kara, so I'll likely not need to be geared for main tanking, but I'd like to be anyway, just in case.

EDIT: I know I need to replace my Libram - I'm gonna shoot for the badge one, but as I'm not running heroics atm do to more limited time, think I can handle Kara long enough to grab enough badges for it? (+a few badges from some lucky SSO bags.)
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Postby honorshammer » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:45 am

etherboy wrote:
GothicPL wrote:
etherboy wrote:http://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/46710

My gear setup...

My questions:
-Can I tank Heroics? (I have some pieces like Uther's boots for higher threat/lower mitigation)
-Could I reasonably MT Kara (I have done 3 runs of Kara, and OT'd)
-My bracers need replacing - Green Fortress?

Appreciate any input!


I think you're fine for the first half of Kara and easy heroics such as SP.

You should try to upgrade your shield if you want to MT Prince and Nightbane, or AOE tank heroics with no CC. Of course, this depends on your healers as well, but you will feel a huge difference with an epic shield that has more armor and BV.

Bracer of Green Fortress, heroic Arc bracers or bracers of Attumen are all good upgrades for you. I personally have had great mileage out of BoGF, they last a while.

But still, shield upgrade should come first.


I'm working on Sha'tar rep, and Netherwing Protector quest line...

But what shield is fairly easily attainable that is worthwhile...


The rep shield from Ogril'la is pretty good and it's what I used until I got my Crest.
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Postby safetyguy14 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:31 am

Wakeman wrote:
safetyguy14 wrote:http://www.armorylite.com/us/mug%27thol/masondin

Hi Guys!

I currently OT SSC/GRUUL/TK very successfully and MT 3.5 hour clears of kara. I have 115 badges laying around and our 2.4 vendor should pop in the next day or two. What do you think would be the best way to spend my badges? My gut is telling me 75 badge chest + slikk's cloak but those 100 badge pants are tasty. Also I hate my boots :). Help me spend my badges!!!

Thanks to all in advance. I also have t4 gloves, scarab of displacement, and some other blue defense trinkets laying around too.



Good health and armor. However, your problem is you are VERY crushable at the moment. Mainly because your block is too low. You probably need to trade some stamina gear (e.g. goblin rocket launcher) for avoidance/blocking gear. I suggest you check the stickies for tips to get uncrushable.

Chest is probably the 1st thing you should buy with BoJ. Then cloak and maybe a tanking ring.

Good luck!


[edit] oh, almost forget..... Read my signature! :P


ya ya, I have 17k honor; too lazy grinding that non-sense :) thx for the advice, on fights where I need it I just pop the scarab on and I go up to 107% avoidance :)
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Postby Ciandin » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:44 am

Aedan wrote:Newcomer here, just wanted to pop by and say thanks to everyone here for the awesome suggestions (though for a while power-leveling engineering, I may have said some rather uncouth things to the contrary).

http://armorylite.com/us/Anetheron/aedan

That should have all my current tank gear up atm. Now, I just got the wrists right before I logged last night, thus no gem. This weekend is the Bot->Mech->Arc portion of our quest for the keys, so I'll grab the Sha'tari Vindicator's Belt no problem, and the follow-up in Black Morass will bump me just over Revered with KoT for my legs and head enchant. Aside from grabbing Flesh Beast's on a quick MT run, and hoping the SV run for the key frag bumps me into revered with CE for my neck, any recommendations?

I'm going to be splitting tanking duties with our guild leader (gearin him up for the switch to prot) once we hit kara, so I'll likely not need to be geared for main tanking, but I'd like to be anyway, just in case.

EDIT: I know I need to replace my Libram - I'm gonna shoot for the badge one, but as I'm not running heroics atm do to more limited time, think I can handle Kara long enough to grab enough badges for it? (+a few badges from some lucky SSO bags.)


Keep volunteering to run mech/bot/arc for other guildies as well to get your Crest (Frying Pan shield) and maybe the healing mace for when you need to offheal (Shade of Aran or whatever)
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Postby Aedan » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:14 am

Thanks for the tip. Forgot about that off-healing set, I'm gonna have to update my current healing gear.

Hrm, here's a question - worthwhile to grab up the new 'honored' pvp set and just socket a bunch of mp5 or something? I'd have to take another look to see if they're even half-way decent for healing, but seeing as I'm running all these instances for gear anyway, the rep requirement is a non-issue, and would make assembling a new set cake. Or pie, depending on your preference.
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a query about gear

Postby Dregrin » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:54 am

Untill fairly recently I was a Healadin in good standing with a fair amount of nicer gear from my kara raiding, after a bit of time I have decided to return to being a prot pally since I only went holy to help out my old guild. I have looked through the various guides and what have you on proper pre kara gear however some things i just cant be sure about. seeing as I do have a few pieces that came from kara.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... &n=Dregrin

This is my character, any tips would be greatly appreciated.

I am mainly looking for what i should replace with blues and what not from normal runs and eventually heroics, and which kara pieces i should just keep due to there superior nature
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Re: a query about gear

Postby guillex » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:59 am

Dregrin wrote:Untill fairly recently I was a Healadin in good standing with a fair amount of nicer gear from my kara raiding, after a bit of time I have decided to return to being a prot pally since I only went holy to help out my old guild. I have looked through the various guides and what have you on proper pre kara gear however some things i just cant be sure about. seeing as I do have a few pieces that came from kara.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... &n=Dregrin

This is my character, any tips would be greatly appreciated.

I am mainly looking for what i should replace with blues and what not from normal runs and eventually heroics, and which kara pieces i should just keet due to there superior nature


Did you log out in your healing gear?

You need to gem the leggings. Get rid of the healing stuff (or just heal for right now and pick up different items from Kara/Heroics).

Replace every single piece of healing gear you have? That's pretty much the only advice that I personally can give you.

The MT gear thread and the Uncrushability guide are two very very good resources for fledgling tankadins. I would have personally suggested that you stay holy until you had the gear to go prot.
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Postby Ciandin » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:09 am

Once you start getting upgrades, don't vendor anything you're replacing right away, because you *might* need it down the line.
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Postby Snake-Aes » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:14 am

Ciandin wrote:Once you start getting upgrades, don't vendor anything you're replacing right away, because you *might* need it down the line.
This is so true. Had to pull abck my good old Andormu's once, and I still wiggle around with my old gear for either boss-specific micromanagement, or high threat heroic sets.
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Postby dlantz » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:10 am

Here's a link to 3 gear profiles on warcrafter I've been tossing around. My guild is currently 1/4 in TK and 2/6 in SSC (And 5/6 in ZA), and I generally tank adds on anything that has them and alternate main tanking with our warrior on everything else. The badge costs are all roughly the same, and all are uncritable and uncrushable. Just not quite sure which direction I'd be best off taking my gear towards as we progress. (And if you hate all 3, feel free to link me something better. lol.)

Note: I have +15 def on chest (doesnt' show) and the amber ring is a place holder for the Stalwart Defender (new BoJ ring) so just add 1.48% dodge to the total. (and 2.48 when checking uncrushable). I also screwed up the gem names, but the stats are all right.

http://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/46991

http://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/46992

http://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/46994

And my armory just for comparison:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... k&n=Davidz


Thanks a lot!
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Postby steadypal » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:38 pm

okay today i just got the new aldor pants can i say sexah


next question is i only have 31 badges left what should i do


current cloak is devilshark, should i upgrade that next with silikks?


current belt is belt of the guardian, should i get badge belt?


current boots is the pally blacksmithing boots, should i upgrade those to the 2.3 badge boots???


any suggestions would be swell, thanks
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Postby GothicPL » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:49 pm

Wakeman wrote:Some of your gems are wrong. Red should be +8 dodge, instead of parry.


In 2.4, the best gem for the red slot is usually Regal Nightseye. I was so happy to discover it's not BoP (there were rumors it was.)
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Check ME!!!

Postby mrtremere » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:55 pm

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... =Jezzebell

I got 300 badges in the bank and will be purchasing the the 2.4 Legs and Ring

I'm also a JC and will be making
Figurine - Crimson Serpent
Figurine - Empyrean Tortoise

I cant seem to the the Commendation of Kael'thas to drop.

I'm thinking of slotting +15 gems in most everything.

Any further recommendation?

Should I shoot for t5 shoulders or keep the Pauldrons of Stone Resolve, my nub guild cant seem to dodge the energy balls.

Thanks you in advanced.

Also I have itch to grab resist gear.
my Arcane is @ 219 resist. Is fire and Shadow still worth getting or am I wasting time. In a casual guild doing T5/ZA some Hyjal.
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