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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Extermi » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:25 am

Thanks for the list, it is really helpful for me. My only complained is that the linked tier heads have a bit too much spirit on them for my taste :-)

(Read: These are the holy ones being linked)
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby pbean » Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:53 pm

As far as I can tell, the Blacksmithing items which are crafted using raid-dropped patterns are missing.
Gauntlets of Battle Command
Unyielding Bloodplate
Ornate Battleplate of the Master (intended as DPS item)

Bloodforged Warfists (DPS item with crit)

I find myself using filters like these quite often to find gear lists. :)

Hope this helps.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Fetzie » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:28 pm

In light of haste being awesome and all that, I feel that the Jade Charioteer Figurine (item level 489, MGV Trash) deserves a mention.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby theothersteve7 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:53 am

Put up the Relic of Nizao, would you? The tank DMC trinket of the expansion. It's lovely when gearing up.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Aurzon » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:22 pm

Just curious, if this is a "Paladin Tank Gear List" why are there Ret pieces (and also Holy pieces marked as Ret pieces) in the list? Thank you for the list though! It's a great resource. ^.^
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Skye1013 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:08 pm

Aurzon wrote:Just curious, if this is a "Paladin Tank Gear List" why are there Ret pieces (and also Holy pieces marked as Ret pieces) in the list? Thank you for the list though! It's a great resource. ^.^

Not sure which pieces you're referring to specifically (as I can't view the links at the moment), but:

If a piece has hit/exp/haste/mastery and not crit, it's just as valid for a tank (see Theck's guide under basic training.)

If it has hit/exp and crit, it might still be an upgrade compared to a piece which has neither hit/exp (as in the control build hit/exp is valued quite a bit.)

Additionally, if a piece has int, but includes haste/mastery, the loss of str is negligible compared to the gain on secondary stats.

Someone please correct me if my assumptions on why they might have been included in the list are wrong.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Kelerei » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:52 am

Something else that's worth taking into consideration is the "normal elite" items (ilvl 503) and "heroic elite" items (ilvl 516) that drop from Protectors of the Endless if the raid kills Protector Kaolan last. (Think back to the Assembly of Iron in Ulduar -- same concept here.)

So, we can add to the list:

Neck:

ilevel 516 [Shackle of Eversparks] - Protector Kaolan, Terrace of Endless Spring (Heroic Elite)
ilevel 516 [Kaolan's Withering Necklace] - Protector Kaolan, Terrace of Endless Spring (Heroic Elite)
ilevel 503 [Shackle of Eversparks] - Protector Kaolan, Terrace of Endless Spring (Normal Elite)
ilevel 503 [Kaolan's Withering Necklace] - Protector Kaolan, Terrace of Endless Spring (Normal Elite)

Wrist:

ilevel 516 [Bracers of Defiled Earth] - Protector Kaolan, Terrace of Endless Spring (Heroic Elite)
ilevel 503 [Bracers of Defiled Earth] - Protector Kaolan, Terrace of Endless Spring (Normal Elite)

Feet:

ilevel 516 [Deepwater Greatboots] - Protector Kaolan, Terrace of Endless Spring (Heroic Elite)
ilevel 503 [Deepwater Greatboots] - Protector Kaolan, Terrace of Endless Spring (Normal Elite)

Then, someone mentioned the rare 476 drops from the 5 man dungeons. We have two items of interest to us: [Inelava, Spirit of Inebriation] is a 1H sword from Yan-Zhu the Uncasked in Stormstout Brewery, and [Helios, Durand's Soul of Purity] is a hit/haste necklace from High Inquisitor Whitemane in Scarlet Monastery (expect to fight plate DPS for this).

I'd also give an honourable mention to [Ook's Hozen Slicer] as it's pretty much the only pre-raid tanking weapon available. (Inelava has a 0.3% drop rate according to Wowhead; as such, I don't consider it "available".)
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Loliinacan » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:48 pm

Your links for the tier helms link to the holy ones instead of the prot.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby mclem » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:18 pm

Skye1013 wrote:If it has hit/exp and crit, it might still be an upgrade compared to a piece which has neither hit/exp (as in the control build hit/exp is valued quite a bit.)


...on which note, I've been umming and ahhing over the Ring of the Golden Stair for valor instead of Alani's. Expertise and crit vs. Dodge/Parry. Worth adding to the list?
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Sagara » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:01 am

We just had the discussion on the Gear Check thread - it's a very good piece, but there's an even BETTER valor piece coming with 5.1, so you might hold onto your horses just yet.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Nikachelle » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:14 pm

An update to this is coming... ONCE THIS FRIGGING SITE STOPS CLOUDFLARING MY ASS. ARGH.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby lythac » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:49 am

Nikachelle wrote:An update to this is coming... ONCE THIS FRIGGING SITE STOPS CLOUDFLARING MY ASS. ARGH.

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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:43 am

It's like... "awww kitteh" then "ewww Cloud Flare" then "OMG HE USED COMIC SANS /rage"
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Sagara » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:47 am

Nikachelle wrote:It's like... "awww kitteh" then "ewww Cloud Flare" then "OMG HE USED COMIC SANS /rage"


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I'm going to sound utterly moronic, but tried working on a formatted version on a word process then do an edit -> select all -> paste -> submit when the server is stable?
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:51 am

Sagara wrote:
Nikachelle wrote:It's like... "awww kitteh" then "ewww Cloud Flare" then "OMG HE USED COMIC SANS /rage"


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I'm going to sound utterly moronic, but tried working on a formatted version on a word process then do an edit -> select all -> paste -> submit when the server is stable?

Problem was I needed to read through the additions people had made and I couldn't even get to the second page to read comments. Anyway, it's stable now, I'll likely get it done sometime during the work day today.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:56 pm

Updated! I think I got everyone's suggestions/corrections after my last update - thank you so much for your input!

Just to recap, the following have been added:
- Operation: Shieldwall rep/valor items
- BOE gear
- Crafted gear
- Dungeon epics
- Heroic Elite items

As always, if I've missed something or incorrectly linked an item, let me know!
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:05 pm

Skye1013 wrote:
Aurzon wrote:Just curious, if this is a "Paladin Tank Gear List" why are there Ret pieces (and also Holy pieces marked as Ret pieces) in the list? Thank you for the list though! It's a great resource. ^.^

Not sure which pieces you're referring to specifically (as I can't view the links at the moment), but:

If a piece has hit/exp/haste/mastery and not crit, it's just as valid for a tank (see Theck's guide under basic training.)

If it has hit/exp and crit, it might still be an upgrade compared to a piece which has neither hit/exp (as in the control build hit/exp is valued quite a bit.)

Additionally, if a piece has int, but includes haste/mastery, the loss of str is negligible compared to the gain on secondary stats.

Someone please correct me if my assumptions on why they might have been included in the list are wrong.

Only just saw this.

The holy paladin ones were just an error on my behalf.

The ret ones, however, are entirely valid. While you may not get a set bonus (or maybe it's your fifth piece of tier and therefore you don't need that particular slot to be prot), the stats on some of the ret gear are excellent. Plus there's the chance that they'll drop from Sha of Anger in which case you scored free (ret) tier with awesome stats that will work for prot!
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Thels » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:12 am

You included two broken links:

Nikachelle wrote:Head:

2. ilevel 496 [Giantfoot Headguard] - Galleon



Feet:

5. ilevel 496 [Silverspur Warboots] - Galleon


Other than that, nice job! :)
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby JoeBravo » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:48 am

wasn't really sure where to put this, but I thought this blog by Binkenstein had some relevance: The Trap of Best-In-Slot Lists
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Treck » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:48 am

You still havnt added http://www.wowhead.com/item=89919 or its lower ilvl versions to the list, It might have crit rating on it that people see as a definite "no tank" item, but considering it actually having 2x sockets (compared to the ToES version) plus a lot more expertise, it is still one of the best options there are to help reach expertise cap, and I honestly rank it as one of the if not the best waist there are for tanks atm to reach exp cap with less effort.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Nikachelle » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:27 pm

Updated for 5.2.

What I know I'm missing so far: Durumu (wowhead doesn't seem to list his loot?), concrete Ra-den drops (only found the rings) and any zone drops/crafted items for Throne of Thunder. Also missing the two new faction vendor bought items. I'll add these in when I get a chance.

If you see something that's wrong or missing (aside from the ones I listed above) please let me know!

Also, sorry Treck, I've only just now noticed your post. Whoops! :S
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Treck » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:03 pm

ALL items except tier items can be thunderforged btw.
I can see you added some thunderforged items but not all, would honestly be a mess adding all, so there are 4 versions of every item, but ALL items can be thunderforged, so they can be ilvl 541.
Stats are obviously the same, just higher, and unless you are putting together a hit/exp capped version (unlikely to be very usefull since you wont really be full BiS 541 to have perfect distribution of the ratings all the time)
its not really going to be very vital to know.
Gear scaling is insane between the tiers tho, initial mucking around with the gearz makes it seem like you can go for pretty much any gear, and just reforge hit and exp cap from scratch, and still make it just fine.
Preferably haste/mastery gear :P
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Nikachelle » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:28 pm

Hmmm all? I went with everything I could find on wowhead when searching for item drops by name. I'm half tempted to take them out because adding them on top of the LFR/Normal/Heroic drops was a pain in the damn butt.

A blue post here http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7709282055 makes mention of 5 possible versions of each item.
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Re: Nikachelle's Mists of Pandaria Paladin Tank Gear List

Postby Thels » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:41 pm

Wowhead probably registers them as they drop and are recorded with the addon. You'll notice quite a few 528 thunderforged items, and no 541 thunderforged items, since the 535 items still have to drop.

The 5th version is probably 502 (LFR).
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