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[Neck] Ironstar Amulet vs Necklace of Strife

Postby Quacky » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:07 pm

Hello Paladins,

I wanna talk about these two necklaces: Ironstarand Strife. Just from a survival point of view, if I reforge each one and consider mastery being 1.125x better then dodge/parry at my gear lvl. I would say that Strife has nearly 34 more effective dodge stat points then the Ironstar. However, to use Strife over Ironstar, there's a substantial lost of threat. Threat isn't a serious problem, but it's part of our job too. Because of this I'm intended to get the Ironstar even though my guildies will call me bad.

However, if that's all I have to say, then there's no point for this threat. What I'm hoping for is to see what others feel about this and if I'm missing anything important:

Ironstar:
145 Str -> 36.25 Parry
286 Stam
190 Dodge -> 190 Dodge
96 Hit -> 38.4 Mastery
Total: 226.25 Avoidance and 38.4 Mastery ~=239.5 (Counting Avoidance x 1.125 = Mastery)

Strife:
190 Agility -> 114 Dodge
286 Stamina
127 haste -> 50.8 Dodge
127 mastery -> 127 Mastery
Total: 164.8 Avoidance and 127 Mastery ~= 273.5 (Counting Avoidance x 1.125 = Mastery)

What do you guys think?
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Re: [Neck] Ironstar Amulet vs Necklace of Strife

Postby Arincia » Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:36 pm

To be fair it would be better to consider just comparing avoidance on each to each other and same for mastery.

Now ill just account kings into this to make it more accurate

Ironstar:
145 Str ->152.25 ->38 parry
286 Stam
190 Dodge -> 190 Dodge
96 Hit -> 38.4 Mastery
total:38 parry 190 dodge 38.4 mastery


Strife:
190 Agility -> 199.5 -> 120 Dodge
286 Stamina
127 haste -> 50.8 Dodge
127 mastery -> 127 Mastery
total:170.8 dodge 127 mastery

Diffrence
Ironstar: 38 parry, 19.2 dodge-> 0.32 avoidance rating (pre DR) (.0032% less damage taken)
Strife: 88.6 mastery-> 0.494 block rating (no DR) (.002964% less damage taken)



Short version doesn't matter which you get strife is more stable damage taken while ironstar is technically better but not noticeable (.000236% less damage taken).
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Re: [Neck] Ironstar Amulet vs Necklace of Strife

Postby domipal » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:03 pm

i think reforging the dodge to mastery might give you more ctc because of the DR on the dodge
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Re: [Neck] Ironstar Amulet vs Necklace of Strife

Postby Digren » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:32 am

1. [Don Rodrigo's Fabulous Necklace] : BoE Dungeon Drop
2. [Necklace of Strife] : The Bastion of Twilight () Valiona
3. [Ironstar Amulet] : Blackwing Descent (Normal) Atramedes

Necklace of Strife is quite a bit better than the Ironstar Amulet when you are not concerned about the threat. If you want the best piece, though, buy Don Rodrigo's.
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Re: [Neck] Ironstar Amulet vs Necklace of Strife

Postby Cascadian » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:36 am

Digren wrote:1. [Don Rodrigo's Fabulous Necklace] : BoE Dungeon Drop
2. [Necklace of Strife] : The Bastion of Twilight () Valiona
3. [Ironstar Amulet] : Blackwing Descent (Normal) Atramedes

Necklace of Strife is quite a bit better than the Ironstar Amulet when you are not concerned about the threat. If you want the best piece, though, buy Don Rodrigo's.


How does this compare with the current 359 necks?
Since there is no really good 359 neck, for mitigation and avoidance, will this 353 neck make more sense?

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69635/amul ... rotection/

Amulet of Protection
Neck
+180 Strength
+270 Stamina
Item Level 353
Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 130.
Equip: Increases your mastery rating by 102.
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Re: [Neck] Ironstar Amulet vs Necklace of Strife

Postby Digren » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:09 am

Cascadian wrote:
Digren wrote:1. [Don Rodrigo's Fabulous Necklace] : BoE Dungeon Drop
2. [Necklace of Strife] : The Bastion of Twilight () Valiona
3. [Ironstar Amulet] : Blackwing Descent (Normal) Atramedes

Necklace of Strife is quite a bit better than the Ironstar Amulet when you are not concerned about the threat. If you want the best piece, though, buy Don Rodrigo's.


How does this compare with the current 359 necks?
Since there is no really good 359 neck, for mitigation and avoidance, will this 353 neck make more sense?

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69635/amul ... rotection/

Amulet of Protection
Neck
+180 Strength
+270 Stamina
Item Level 353
Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 130.
Equip: Increases your mastery rating by 102.

Doing the math in my head, I think that piece would be below Don Rog and Strife but above Ironstar. The avoidance gained from agility compensates for the poor non-mastery stat.
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