[Leatherworking]A request for US realms players

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[Leatherworking]A request for US realms players

Postby polonadis » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:19 pm

I would like to ask US players to create a thread on US forums asking the blue posters if there are any stam/str/int/spirit enchants planned for the wrist slot. The reason why I ask you to do this is that if there are no plans to make these stats available then Leatherworking will pull WAY ahead - both for tanks and dpsers - of other professions in perks departament, and the EU forums are quite neglected by the devs.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: A request for US realms players

Postby Flex » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:39 pm

polonadis wrote:I would like to ask US players to create a thread on US forums asking the blue posters if there are any stam/str/int/spirit enchants planned for the wrist slot. The reason why I ask you to do this is that if there are no plans to make these stats available then Leatherworking will pull WAY ahead - both for tanks and dpsers - of other professions in perks departament, and the EU forums are quite neglected by the devs.

Thanks in advance.


The LW wrist enchant is not inaddition to a wrist slot enchant and isn't any more powerful than perks from other professions i.e. it is about as powerful as Prismatic Gems or Ring Enchants.
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Re: A request for US realms players

Postby Chicken » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:20 am

That's currently the case on live, but Polonadis is correct for Cataclysm. Most professions provide a potential 120 stamina (123 stamina for JC), the new Draconic Embossment - Stamina provides 195 Stamina; discount 40 from the highest available stam enchant and that puts it at 155 Stamina. If there were a new +75 Stamina bracer enchant the values would be comparable, though the various +50 ratings enchants are comparable already from a stat gain point of view (Though there's two +65 rating bracer enchants as well, which would potentially make LW worse for some DPS classes compared to other professions).

Whether that matters or not of course rather depends on whether you even want to maximize stamina.
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Re: A request for US realms players

Postby polonadis » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:55 am

Chicken wrote:That's currently the case on live, but Polonadis is correct for Cataclysm. Most professions provide a potential 120 stamina (123 stamina for JC), the new Draconic Embossment - Stamina provides 195 Stamina; discount 40 from the highest available stam enchant and that puts it at 155 Stamina. If there were a new +75 Stamina bracer enchant the values would be comparable, though the various +50 ratings enchants are comparable already from a stat gain point of view (Though there's two +65 rating bracer enchants as well, which would potentially make LW worse for some DPS classes compared to other professions).

Whether that matters or not of course rather depends on whether you even want to maximize stamina.


It's not even the question of maximizing, it's just boosting the overall stamina/str/int budget available on items at the given tier.
Enchanting 50 dodge/50 expertise (or crit/haste for dps) on wrists does not provide any additional base stat budget whereas the LW enchant does. The stats that we don't get on the wrist slot enchant we can easily obtain via reforging.
For dps str/int/agi is almost ALWAYS better than any other stat (which they can also obtain via reforging.
Not to mention that JC and BS are quite horrible for melee dps nowadays with the metagem that requires more blue than red gems causing addidional sockets that the dpsers want to fill with red gems to be a liability and to exclude the use of that meta.

The stat comparison comes down to :
130 str vs 50 hit/50 expertise/65 crit/65 haste + 80 str (potential BS perk) = 50 str vs 65crit/haste or 50 exp/hit
195 stam vs 50 dodge/expertise or old 40stam + 120 stamina (potential BS perk) = 40stam or 50dodge/expertise vs 75 stam

The simplest solution to balance LW out is to lower the amount of stats and to make the enchant stack with the available wrist enchants, of course.
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Re: [Leatherworking]A request for US realms players

Postby Neptuno » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:41 pm

my LW Bear would love that... and engineering works that way already so the code has to be there.
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