Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

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Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Dorianias » Tue May 18, 2010 2:52 pm

I am now in mostly ilvl 277 pieces except for the 264 Sindragosa's Flawless Fang which she has only droped once and sadly never since we started killing her on Heroic. Well I find myself still using my Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality 258 and was wondering if other's are also having difficuties replacing this trinket?
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Candoric » Tue May 18, 2010 3:32 pm

You can always replace it with the Corroded Skeleton Key.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Dorianias » Tue May 18, 2010 5:44 pm

Candoric wrote:You can always replace it with the Corroded Skeleton Key.


I said upgrade, not downgrade.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Candoric » Tue May 18, 2010 6:34 pm

12 Stamina more and an equally shitty clicky are a downgrade for you? To each his own.

If you think that way, you will never replace the ToC one for your Stamina set so give up hope. You have the fang already and the other options are all armor-focused (organ, ruby sanctum scale) or worthless (coin comes to mind).
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Meloree » Tue May 18, 2010 9:04 pm

Dorianias wrote:
Candoric wrote:You can always replace it with the Corroded Skeleton Key.


I said upgrade, not downgrade.


Case by Case. In some cases the Key is useful, simply because it can be used 50% more often. Rarely is the on-use effect of either one sufficient on its own in any place a cooldown is required, and most of the time 6400 damage prevented is almost as effective as more health for the 5 second window that you might actually be using the clicky to cover.

Of course, you could be in a guild that's never seen Sindragosa's Trinket drop, not in normal OR heroic, nor on alt runs. Damn Dragon.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Fiaraa » Tue May 18, 2010 11:10 pm

Whilst I'm not so hard done by (yet) as to min-max that way, I really do think that Juggernaut's is better, simply because the bonus health effects AD for that duration, vs only absorbing 6.4k damage.

But until I'm at a point where that tiny difference matters I'm just using key for the passive.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Candoric » Tue May 18, 2010 11:38 pm

It is a matter of taste really and I really prefer the key. It can be used every 2 minutes compared to 3 - the minuscule amount either one shields/boosts you for is not going to save you in a pinch either way. The ability to pop the key every 2 minutes serves for more versatility and overall healer relief in my book. Added to this the 12 extra stamina and I am a follower of the key.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby svedka » Wed May 19, 2010 12:03 am

Meloree wrote:
Dorianias wrote:
Candoric wrote:You can always replace it with the Corroded Skeleton Key.

Of course, you could be in a guild that's never seen Sindragosa's Trinket drop, not in normal OR heroic, nor on alt runs. Damn Dragon.


+1, I dont believe it exists.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Ventras » Wed May 19, 2010 2:38 am

Heroic Satrina's > Key. Simple.

Pair it with 264/277 Fang and you are all set.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Barathorn » Wed May 19, 2010 3:57 am

Ventras wrote:Heroic Satrina's > Key. Simple.


I don't think it really matters, it is such a small difference between the two. I would suggest a case by case approach as previously suggested. I don't think you can say Item X > Item Y when the effects are so close.

I would again point out that as Digren says 'Only you, the experianced Tankadin, knows what is best for you'.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby lythac » Wed May 19, 2010 6:03 am

Heroic Satrina's CD covers both parts of SR damage the key only one.

For most other fights it really shouldn't matter, unless I am showing my lack of Heroic-fu.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby bashef » Fri May 21, 2010 5:32 am

Depending on the situation I'd be strongly tempted to use the 251 version of the Organ over the 258 Satrina's. If you have the 264 Organ it's pretty much a no-brainer for me for all but Sindra or heroic LK.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Gamingdevil » Sun May 23, 2010 1:02 am

Ventras wrote:Heroic Satrina's > Key. Simple.

Pair it with 264/277 Fang and you are all set.


How do you figure the 264 Fang to be better than the Key? It's on-use does nearly nothing unless on Sindragosa.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby Noravis » Thu May 27, 2010 6:36 pm

Gamingdevil wrote:
Ventras wrote:Heroic Satrina's > Key. Simple.

Pair it with 264/277 Fang and you are all set.


How do you figure the 264 Fang to be better than the Key? It's on-use does nearly nothing unless on Sindragosa.


The fang is a major part of cooldown rotations in killing heroic lich king since it is so overpowered for soul reaper.
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Re: Heroic Juggernaut's Vitality

Postby inthedrops » Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:11 pm

svedka wrote:+1, I dont believe it exists.


Doesn't exist
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