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Re: How to pursue better gear from ground zero

Postby daisuki » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:16 am

Ragingsoul wrote:
daisuki wrote:
I am approaching 526 defense. However, now what troubles me is my very low DPS against single targets (for simulating against a single boss). I only do about 950 dps. Surely people will kick me out for this right? :roll:

trust me, I have seen dps doing 500 dps in heroics, worry about being crit immune, then about threat and hp. You can't ding lvl 80 and expect to have 40k hp and making 8k tps. it will come with time.



Well I've done some heroics as damage to get a feel of what will be coming for me and I've noticed that every single time, the tank had over 30k+ hp (after buffs). Even without buffs they are in the high 20k's.



I've read the gearing guide and farming emblems and getting gear quickly in 4 weeks, but as of right now, i can muster only 19.5k hp (with enchant i'm buying tomorrow, can boost to 20k).

Is this too low hp?

Sorry for all the questions. :(
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Re: Help with starting tank gear

Postby Ragingsoul » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:29 pm

Too low to tank those? no. Too low in the eye of others? maybe.
ofc people with full Tier 9 or 10 will complain you are undergeared and make low aggro etc, but we use to tank those in this gear in naxx and before naxx, so you're find on the dmg part.
I would suggest picking up either the block libram first, or the strength one to have a much enjoyable time in heroics, without too much aggro problems. Otherwise, try to finish leveling mining, for some HP boost, and JC, for a stamina trinket for example and some epic gems. Both will give you 60 and 63 stamina boosts.
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Re: Help with starting tank gear

Postby Torquemada » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:25 pm

When I started tanking at level 80 on Torque after switching to crafted blue(Daunted gloves/legs, Tempered Saronite everything else) I managed to get defense capped with somewhere around 19k health, so you're in the right ballpark. It was a little different back then, but I've also geared up a warrior tank and am currently working on my DK, so I have an idea of what to do.

First, if you can't get anyone to carry you in a ToC 10 or 25 run, your best bet is indeed to spam repeat ToC 5 for the Black heart, legs, helm, etc. They're dead on with the axe from the Argent Tournament, but you might get lucky and get a drop from heroic UP as well, and end up with the Red Sword. Unless your professions give you a stamina trinket, go for AzN for the Essence of Gossamer as well.

From crafted gear I'd suggest the Titansteel Shield Wall, the helm, and if you can afford them, the JC ring and neck aren't bad until you can get better. I'd pass on the boots, as you can get better from emblems or even from heroics FoS eventually.

A lot of the gear you'll want to start with comes early from reputation, so do all the quests you can with the Wyrmrest, Argent Crusade, and Ebon Blade. The Toxic boots from EB will hold you over until you get revered with Wyrmrest, and the Argent Crusade will give you a rather nice cloak, boots, and chest that I'm still using on the DK as I hoard emblems.

For emblem purchases, I strongly recommend the ring, the Libram of Valiance(the threat will help you more than the dodge one), the Clutch of Fortification, and the emblem shoulders and helm. Beyond that, it's mostly filling in gear with 232 Tier 9 and whatever other slots you can manage from either the new heroics 232 gear or the occasional emblem of Valor item.
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Re: Help with starting tank gear

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:48 am

Small correction, Torquemada - the cloak, boots, and chest are Wyrmrest Accord; Argent Crusade has tank legs.
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Re: Help with starting tank gear

Postby nalenb » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:55 am

I followed Honor's guides pretty strictly. I was wearing this set (and I still have some of them) http://honorscode.blogspot.com/2009/06/ ... -tank.html when I hit 80. I was 450 blacksmithing and 450 mining so that kept the cost down a bit. I gemmed also non-bonus pieces with defense gems and the rest with stamina gems. I'm pretty sure I was over 540 defense at 80.

Honestly, tanking instance was very stressful for me. Not only did you have to worry about gear but you have to worry about threat and knowing all the fights for all the instances too. What I did was pick a specific instance and run it till I knew it. Then I'd read up on another one and run that. Now at 80 I'm still picking specific instances to run as heroic. I wanted to know what I was getting before I queued up. At this point I know them all except HoL which is my next to learn. I know it costs me frosts but I'm okay with that to structure my learning.

I also had the good fortune to have a healer that was a friend and was leveling with me and in about the same gear. We would discuss the instance afterwards. What made me hard to heal, what fight took a lot of heals, how were dps pulling threat, what mobs did I miss picking up, etc.

My advice to every tank I hear questions from is to visit Honor's site and read everything. Then visit maintankadin and read everything. Great things to do on Tuesday mornings.

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Re: Help with starting tank gear

Postby Apollya » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:44 pm

It's quite a long list, taken from my guide on the Blizzard EU pala forums:
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.htm ... 8864980248

Weapon:
Falric's Wrist-Chopper - Axe - Falric - Halld of Reflection Heroic
Rimefang's Claw - Sword - Scourge Lord Tyranus - Pit of Saron Heroic
Lucky Old Sun - Mace - Bronjahm - Forge of Souls Normal
Peacekeeper Blade - Eadric the Pure / Argent Confessor Paletress - Trial of the Champion Heroic
Red Sword of Courage - Sword - King Ymiron - Utgarde Pinnacle Heroic
Axe of the Sen'jin Protector (H) or Teldrassil Protector - Axe - 25 Champion's Seal - Argent Tournament Vendors
Cloudstrider's Waraxe - Axe - Varos Cloudstriker - Occulus Heroic
Infantry Assault Blade - Sword - Prince Keleseth - Utgarde Keep Heroic
Eternally Folded Blade - Sword - Volkhan - Halls of Lightning

Shield:
Splintered Door of the Citadel - Marwyn - Halls of Reflection Normal
Northern Barrier - Ulduar 25man, Hodir - BoE so can buy off Auction House
Royal Crest of Lordaeron - Mal'Ganis - The Culling of Stratholme Heroic
Titansteel Shield Wall - Crafted by Blacksmith
Bulwark of the Noble Protector - Keristrazsa - Nexus Heroic
Leeka's Shield - Mal'Ganis - The Culling of Stratholme
Saronite Bulwark - Crafted by Blacksmith
Shield of the Lion-hearted - Alliance Vanguard Reverred
Bulwark of the Warchief - Horde Expedition Reverred

Necklace:
Fossilized Ammonite Choker - Arthas, Lich King - Halls of Reckoning Heroic
The Warlord's Depravity - The Black Knight - Trial of the Champion Heroic
Shard of the Crystal Forest - 19 Emblem of Conquest
Titanium Earthguard Chain - Crafted by Jewelcrafter
Burning Skull Pendant - Trash Drop - Gundrak Heroic
Pendant of the Nathrezim - Mal'Ganis - The Culling of Stratholme Heroic
Shadowseeker's Pendant - Jedoga Shadowseeker - Anh'Khahet: The Old Kingdom Heroic
Amulet of Deflected Blows - Skadi The Ruthless - Utgarde Pinnacle
Amulet of Wills - Sjonnis The Ironshaper - Halls of Stone

Rings:
Harbinger's Bone Band - ICC 10/25man, Trash Drop - BoE so can buy off Auction House
Band of the Traitor King - ToTC 25man, Anub'Arak - BoE so can buy off Auction House
Signet of the Earthshaker - Ulduar 25man, XT-002 - BoE so can buy off Auction House
Clutch of Fortification - 35 Emblem of Triumph
Mark of the Relentless - Champions - Trial of the Champion Heroic
Signet of the Accord - Sartharion 10man - BoE so can buy off Auction House
Titanium Earthguard Ring - Crafted by Jewelcrafter
Unsmashable Heavy Band - Ingvar The Plunderer - Utgarde Keep Heroic
Band of Torture - Drakos The Interogator - Occulus Heroic
Woeful Band - Maiden of Grief - Halls of Stone Heroic
Nerubian Shield Ring - Elder Nadox - Anh'Khahet: The Old Kingdom Heroic
Dragonflight Great-Ring - Ley Guardian Eregos - The Occulus

Trinkets:
Corroded Skeleton Key - 60 Emblem of Frost
Ick's Rotting Tumb - Ick and Krick - Pit of Saron Heroic
Glyph of Indomitability - 50 Emblems of Triumph
Valor Medal of the First War - 40 Emblem of Heroism
Essence of Gossamer - Hadronox - Azjol'Nerub Heroic
Lavanthor's Talisman - Lavanthor - Violet Hold Heroic
Seal of the Pantheon - Loken - Halls of Lightning
Offering of Sacrifice - Gal'darah - Gundrak Heroic

Helm:
Headplate of the Honorbound - 75 Emblem of Triumph
Second Helm of the Executioner - Arthas, Lich King - Halls of Reflection Heroic
Liadrin's Faceguard of Conquest - Tier 9 232 Vendor ToTC - 50 Emblem of Triumph
Helm of the Crestfallen Challenger - Eadric the Pure / Argent Confessor Plaetress - Trial of the Champion Heroic
Tempered Titansteel Helm - Crafted by Blacksmith
Helm of the Ley-Guardian - Ley Guardian Eregos - The Occulus
Ground Tremor Helm - Moorabi - Gundrak Heroic
Arcane-Shielded Helm - Grand Magus Telestra - Nexus Heroic


Shoulder:
Shoulderguards of Enduring Order - 45 Emblem of Triumph
Liadrin's Shoulderguards of Conquest - Tier 9 232 Vendor ToTC - 50 Emblem of Triumph
Shoulderplates of Frozen Blood - Forgemaster Garfrost - Pit of Saron Heroic
Regal Aurous Shoulderplates - Argent Confessor Paletress - Trial of Champion Heroic
Wapach's Spaulders of Solidarity - BoE World Drop
Iron Dwarf Smith Pauldrons - General Bjarngrim - Halls of Lightning Heroic
Pauldrons of the Colossus - Drakkari Colossus - Gundrak Heroic
Crusader's Square Pauldrons - Trash Drop - The Culling of Stratholme Heroic or Regular, BoE
Glimmershell Shoulder Protectors - Reputation Reward - The Oracles Revered

Cloak:
Sentinel's Winter Cloak - 50 Emblem of Frost
Eerie Runeblade Polisher - Falric - Halls of Reflection Normal
Cloak of the Iron Council - The Iron Council - Ulduar BoE
Durable Nerubhide Cape - Created by Leatherworkers
Tattered Castle Drape - Trash Drop - Utgard Keep Heroic (BoE)
Cloak of the Enemy - Commander Stoutbeard - Nexus Heroic
Cloak of Peaceful Resolutions - Reputation Reward - The Wyrmrest Accord Honored
Flowing Cloak of Command - Salramm the Fleshcrafter - The Culling of Stratholme

Chest:
Cataclysmic Chestguard - 95 Emblem of Frost
Liadrin's Breastplate of Conquest - Tier 9 232 Vendor ToTC - 50 Emblem of Triumph
Icebound Bronze Cuirass - Scourgelord Tyrannus - Pit of Saron Heroic
Scourgelord's Frigid Chestplate - Scourgelord Tyrannus - Pit of Saron Normal
Breastplate of the Solemn Council - Reputation Reward - Wyrmrest Accord Reverred
Ziggurat Imprinted Chestguard - The Prophet Tharon'ja - Draktharon Keep Heroic
Sun-Emblazoned Chestplate - Sjonnir the Ironshaper - Halls of Stone Heroic
Reanimated Armor - Gortok Pilehoof - Utgarde Pinnacle
Engraved Chestplate of Eck - Eck - Gundrak Heroic

Bracers:
Saronite Swordbreakers - Crafted - Blacksmithing ToTC Pattern and Crusader Orbs
Bracers of Dalaran's Parapets - 60 Badges of Valor - BoE
Bracers of the Herald - Herald Voljaz - Ahn'Kahet: The Old Kingdom Heroic
Bindings of Dark Will - Salramm the Fleshcrafter - The Culling of Stratholme Heroic
Svala's Bloodied Shackles - Svala Sorrowgrave - Utgarde Pinnacle Normal
Bracers of Reverence - Quest Reward - The Occulus: A Wing and a Prayer
Tempered Saronite Bracers - Crafted by Blacksmith

Gloves:
Gauntlets of the Kraken - 60 Emblem of Frost
Liadrin's Handguards of Conquest - Tier 9 232 Vendor ToTC - 50 Emblem of Triumph
Crystalline Citadel Gauntlets - Arthas, Lich King - Halls of Reflection Normal
Mercy's Hold - Argent Confessor Paletress - Trial of the Champion
Gauntlets of the Water Revenant - Ichoron - Violet Hold Heroic
Gauntlets of the Water Revenant - Trash Drop - Halls of Stone Heroic
Giant-Sized Gauntlets - Reputation Reward - Frenzyheart Revered
Daunting Handguards - Crafted by Blacksmith

Belt:
Verdigris Chain Belt - 60 Emblem of Frost
Titanium Links of Lore - Trash Drop - Forge of Souls, Pit of Saron and Halls of Reflection (Normal/Heroic)
Girdle of the Pallid Knight - The Black Knight - Trial of the Champion Normal
Indestructible Plate Girdle - Ulduar Recipe - Created by Blacksmith
Waistguard of Living Iron - 40 Emblems of Heroism
Skadi's Iron Belt - Skadi The Ruthless - Utgarde Pinnacle Heroic
Waistguard of the Risen Knight - Trash Drop - Drak'Tharon Keep Heroic

Legs:
Pillars of Might - Crafted - Blacksmithing Icecrown recipe (No Defence rating)
Liadrin's Legguards of Conquest - Tier 9 232 Vendor ToTC - 50 Emblem of Triumph
Legplates of Frozen Granite - Devourer of Souls - Forge of Souls
Legguards of Abandoned Fealty - Champions - Trial of the Champion Normal
Bolstered Legplates - Cyanigosa - Violet Hold Heroic
Ley-Guardian's Legguards - Ley Guardian Eregos - The Occulus Heroic
Legplates of the Infinite Drakonid - Chrono Lord Epoc - The Culling of Stratholme Heroic
Special Issue Legplates - Reputation Reward - The Argent Crusade Honored
Daunting Legplates - Created by Blacksmith

Boots:
Boots of Kingly Upheaval - Crafted - Blacksmithing Icecrown recipe (No Defence rating)
Black Spire Sabatons - Devourer of Souls - Forge of Souls Heroic
Boots of Heartfelt Repentance - Eadric The Pure - Trial of the Champion Normal
Spiked Deathdealers - Ulduar Recipe - Created by Blacksmith
Inexorable Sabatons - Naxxramas Heroic BoE (Actually not very good Boots - Avoid)
Sabatons of Draconic Vigor - Reputation Reward - The Wyrmrest Accord Revered
Greaves of Ancient Evil - Herald Voljaz - Ahn'Kahet: The Old Kingdom Heroic
Toxin-Tempered Sabatons - Reputation Reward - The Ebon Blade Honored
Slaughterhouse Sabatons - Meathook - The Culling of Stratholme
Terrace Defence Boots - Trollgore - Drak'Tharon Keep Heroic

List Composed by myself, with additions I stole of Worldie.
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