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Can't find good helm and shoulders

Postby marsh21 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:31 am

Not sure if this is the right place to post gear checks since the forum got switched around, but I didn't see the long 100+ page sticky any more.

I'm in a bit of a dilemma with the helm slot: I haven't even seen the T4 pally token. I've been rockin the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23519 since the day I dinged 70 and I want to get rid of it. Is it worth it to farm for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23536 or spend the 50 badges on http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32083? I was planning on saving badges for the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34888 because I'm trying to stack dodge at this point.

Also, for the shoulders. I've got the damn http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28743 from Netherspite but I'm sick at looking of my last piece of "warrior gear." It's just plain embarrassing. I don't run Gruul on this guy because my guild only does 1 run and I go on my priest, and I can't seem to get in a competent group for timed chests in ZA. Do I have any other alternatives for the shoulder slot?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... &n=Defecus There's the link to my armory, I just hope it doesn't have my piss-poor holy gear in the snapshot... I'm always open to suggestions on any of the other gear. (I haven't seen http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28516 so I'm still rockin' the one from CE rep).
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Postby ulushnar » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:39 am

Oathkeepers isn't really worth it imo.

I like the 50 Badge helm, but if you wanna spend badges elsewhere that's understandable.

Personally, I'd go 50 badge helm or hang on for T4.

As for shoulders, the only other option is the PVP shoulders, but I don't reccomend them unless you're waaay over uncrushable.
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Postby guillex » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:55 am

Or go do Kara badge runs and pick up the helm from Opera.

*shrugs*

Or powerlevel Engineering for the goggles.

Or ... what Ulu said.
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Postby marsh21 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:07 am

I'm fairly certain that I'm gonna get the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32083 if I don't see the T4 one in Kara this week. I should have the 50 badges by then, and it seems cheap enough. I don't really care for Oathkeeper's myself either, nice for threat but meh on avoidance/mitigation. Even though it's a direct upgrade from Felsteel, the only problem I have with the Eternium helm is that it seems like "warrior gear" to me.

I may pick up the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31996 just for threat when I need it, until I get my pally into Gruul's. If I do get the PvP shoulders for tanking, I want the shockadin set, right?
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Postby Dorvan » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:51 am

marsh21 wrote:I'm fairly certain that I'm gonna get the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32083 if I don't see the T4 one in Kara this week. I should have the 50 badges by then, and it seems cheap enough. I don't really care for Oathkeeper's myself either, nice for threat but meh on avoidance/mitigation. Even though it's a direct upgrade from Felsteel, the only problem I have with the Eternium helm is that it seems like "warrior gear" to me.

I may pick up the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31996 just for threat when I need it, until I get my pally into Gruul's. If I do get the PvP shoulders for tanking, I want the shockadin set, right?


You don't need the block rating from the badge helm, which makes it pretty mediocre. I'd spend your badges on the ring instead. As for shoulders, the Netherspite ones are pretty much where it's at until you get T4.

Also, don't get hung up about whether a piece is "Warrior gear" or "Paladin gear"....the only thing that matters is whether or not it's an upgrade.
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Postby Katerina » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:02 pm

Dorvan wrote:
marsh21 wrote:I'm fairly certain that I'm gonna get the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32083 if I don't see the T4 one in Kara this week. I should have the 50 badges by then, and it seems cheap enough. I don't really care for Oathkeeper's myself either, nice for threat but meh on avoidance/mitigation. Even though it's a direct upgrade from Felsteel, the only problem I have with the Eternium helm is that it seems like "warrior gear" to me.

I may pick up the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31996 just for threat when I need it, until I get my pally into Gruul's. If I do get the PvP shoulders for tanking, I want the shockadin set, right?


You don't need the block rating from the badge helm, which makes it pretty mediocre. I'd spend your badges on the ring instead. As for shoulders, the Netherspite ones are pretty much where it's at until you get T4.

Also, don't get hung up about whether a piece is "Warrior gear" or "Paladin gear"....the only thing that matters is whether or not it's an upgrade.


^^ what he said.

BR becomes useless after uncrush (as it is the first thing to be pushed off the combat table at that point), so stacking it becomes a waste of itemization. As such, actual avoidance is superior. The 60 badge ring has a nice bit of dodge. :)
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Postby Ciandin » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:14 pm

Keep in mind that 50 badge helm was release WAY earlier than the 60 badge ring, and has a low iLevel value comparatively. Your badges are worth more to you if you buy an iLevel 150 upgrade compared to an iLevel 120 upgrade (values completely made up since I'm at work and can't access wowhead, but still make a valid argument)
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Postby marsh21 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:35 pm

Yeah, I guess I'm anal about seeing strength on my gear. I understand it does slightly affect block value, but it's just annoying knowing that those itemization points could be put to better use on spell dmg or avoidance.

I was looking at the badge helm just because of the dodge (I realize the block rating is wasted because it's pushed off charts), because it's such an upgrade from Felsteel considering I have the world's worst luck with getting the T4 helm. Would upgrading my Shermanar ring to the badge ring be a bigger upgrade than Felsteel to the badge helm? I will definitely get the badge ring, just not sure which I want first.
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