Threat trinket selection

[superworm]

Honestly I never used a threat trinket before, so I'm wondering what threat trinket is better.

The threat trinket I can think of:
Ashtongue Talisman of Zeal
Tome of Fiery Redemption
Darkmoon Card: Crusade
Hex Shrunken Head
Icon of the Silver Crescent

Anyway Hex Shrunken Head is random drop so I add Icon of the Silver Crescent here. I think Darkmoon Card: Crusade could give us both +120 AP and +80 SD though AP is not that useful to us. That being said, we could use Hex Shrunken Head with our wings to increase its efficiency. And for single target tanking I'm not sure whether Ashtongue Talisman of Zeal is the best as they say the dot is holy damage.

So which threat trinket do you prefer?

[mmatrix]

I must say eye of mag is good..

[superworm]

I must say eye of mag is good..

I believe eye of mag only proc after full resists?

[Worldie]

I must say eye of mag is good..

I believe eye of mag only proc after full resists?

With 17% resist chance we got it quite often.

That said, our best single target TPS trinket is the BT one.
Best AoEtanking trinket looks like being the ToFR, but it's not controlled burst. Icon/HexShrunkenHead are good for that purpose.
The DMC is our best substained TPS boost trinket as well.

[Ketsurui]

Figurine - Crimson Serpent

JC only, obviously.

[superworm]

With 17% resist chance we got it quite often.

That said, our best single target TPS trinket is the BT one.
Best AoEtanking trinket looks like being the ToFR, but it's not controlled burst. Icon/HexShrunkenHead are good for that purpose.
The DMC is our best substained TPS boost trinket as well.

Thanks for the explanation. I will try to get all these and switch them according to the situation. Maybe I could find one that suits me best.

[fuzzygeek]

That said, our best single target TPS trinket is the BT one.
Best AoEtanking trinket looks like being the ToFR, but it's not controlled burst. Icon/HexShrunkenHead are good for that purpose.
The DMC is our best substained TPS boost trinket as well.

Is this still the case? I thought the Talisman ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32489 ) had gotten nerfed at some point; once it used to refresh the dot, now it's just a 50% proc? Thought I'd read something to that effect here, once upon a time.

I used the Talisman for a while and was sorely disappointed, but I'm not a big fan of depending on % proc.

I tend to use the Icon of the Silver Crescent ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29370 ) when I just need 1 threat trinket, IotSC + ToFR ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30447 ) when I wear two (but I don't like the proc based, and as soon as I get another Timbal's ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34470 ) I'll probably bank it forevermore).

What I hate about ToFR is that it'll proc when I refresh blessings 20 seconds before we pull.

I also have a Battlemaster's Audacity ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34049 ) that I should probably start carrying around too, come to think.

[lesurk]

Is this still the case? I thought the Talisman ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32489 ) had gotten nerfed at some point; once it used to refresh the dot, now it's just a 50% proc? Thought I'd read something to that effect here, once upon a time.

I used the Talisman for a while and was sorely disappointed, but I'm not a big fan of depending on % proc.

Even without the refresh bug I believe the ATZ works out to around 60 tps. That's pretty significant.

[agnara]

It's exactly 57 tps, more with sanctity and 2% threat enchant.


I was exhalted and didn't even think about this trinket, I'm going to try it for the first time on gorefiend in 10 min.

[lesurk]

It's exactly 57 tps, more with sanctity and 2% threat enchant.


I was exhalted and didn't even think about this trinket, I'm going to try it for the first time on gorefiend in 10 min.

Don't forget 1 hand spec.

[Invisusira]

DMC, for threat purposes, should simply read "Increases spell damage by 80" because that's what it does.

[agnara]

It's exactly 57 tps, more with sanctity and 2% threat enchant.


I was exhalted and didn't even think about this trinket, I'm going to try it for the first time on gorefiend in 10 min.

Don't forget 1 hand spec.

You're right.


Anyway, I tested the threat trinket and i'm doing way more threat than I usually do. 1.3k tps last time, 1.4k tps this time.

[fuzzygeek]

Hmm. Guess I'll try the Talisman again next run, but I really hate the 50% proc rate dependency.

[Airanna]

I know relying on a proc rate seems iffy, in my experience with the ATZ though that 50% rate has literally meant every other judgement procced. ATZ is also holy damage and gets a tiny spell damage coefficient (I think it was around 7% spread out over the ticks). By the math usually thrown about the IotSC (for example) would give you 41 extra tps, compared to ATZ giving you around 60 depending on just how high your spell damage is.

This is of course on a single target, for AoE I'd lean more toward the SD boost of IotSC or DMC:Crusade depending on which is easier for you to pick up.

[Dorvan]

I know relying on a proc rate seems iffy, in my experience with the ATZ though that 50% rate has literally meant every other judgement procced. ATZ is also holy damage and gets a tiny spell damage coefficient (I think it was around 7% spread out over the ticks). By the math usually thrown about the IotSC (for example) would give you 41 extra tps, compared to ATZ giving you around 60 depending on just how high your spell damage is.

This is of course on a single target, for AoE I'd lean more toward the SD boost of IotSC or DMC:Crusade depending on which is easier for you to pick up.

I'm almost 100% positive AToZ doesn't have a damage coefficient. That said, a 50% proc chance every 8 seconds is plenty high enough to get a nice averaged threat gain over the length of a boss fight. Proc doesn't automatically equal "unreliable"....the proc rate, frequency of use, and fight length all have to be taken into account.