[Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:59 am

JoeBravo wrote:so it's the shorter cd

Well there you have it. If they do similar healing per cast, but one has a 2 min cooldown and the other is 3 min, then you're getting more from the former.

Doesn't quite hold up for Tsulong, of course, because of the 2-minutes-per-phase time meaning you can only use either of them once per Day phase - and Tsulong Day phase is an area where Totem is a worthwhile possibility I think, because of target swapping. Then again, if the Totem splits the same overall healing between 5 targets instead of 3, then less healing is going onto Tsulong. Hmm.

Regarding Blade Lord, I like a) using AG after an Unseen Strike, which is better than totem because of the lower cooldown and full time on single target anyway, and b) using it to heal up after reaching the boss through the gauntlet (advantage: my 3 min cooldowns always come up to use in P2, which boosts AG further).
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby Levantine » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:01 am

Admittedly my experience is limited to lfr strat videos and looking at the dungeon journal so I'm more an willing to concede that htt has its upsides on certain encounters. It just seems to me that ag has more to offer in a general setting to the point where it's my default pick unless mechanics specifically favour htt. May change when I eventually get around to doing something with my shaman, may not.

It's also worth pointing out that in my experience with the people I raid with more focused healing on fewer targets is better than healing more targets for less, but that's very specific to the people I raid with.
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:05 am

Ancestral Guidance is my default choice too. I'm not sure I'd pick HTT for any fight, tbh. If I was ranged the choice might change (see: lots of target swapping on Tsulong, versus melee getting to focus the big add).

Ancestral Guidance does have one big advantage I hope we can agree on: It is freaking awesome during AoE.
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby JoeBravo » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:01 am

KysenMurrin wrote:Ancestral Guidance is my default choice too. I'm not sure I'd pick HTT for any fight, tbh. If I was ranged the choice might change (see: lots of target swapping on Tsulong, versus melee getting to focus the big add).

Ancestral Guidance does have one big advantage I hope we can agree on: It is freaking awesome during AoE.


AG was default for me, switched to HTT for bladelord (popping it while running) and not bothered sofar to switch back.
And yea, AG is awesome during aoe. And on Elegon P1's :P
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby JoeBravo » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:15 am

statweights for secondary stats for elemental are frustrating: did 2 reforges and my mastery>haste>=crit prio changed to haste>mastery>crit again...
So using any kind of reforge addon is basically useless, because the statweights depend on their relative value too much.
I think I'm gonna keep my masteryrating at about 30-40% ahead of hasterating and critrating at about 20% of my hasterating.
Anyone know a site/addon that can do reforging like that (and cap hit at the same time)?
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:24 am

Where do you get your stat weights from? I tried to find EnhSim but it hasn't been kept up for MoP.
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby JoeBravo » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:47 am

KysenMurrin wrote:Where do you get your stat weights from? I tried to find EnhSim but it hasn't been kept up for MoP.


simcraft
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby KysenMurrin » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:24 am

Quick note for any Shaman that reach Rank 8 on the Brawler's Guild - Destructolaser cast by Epicus Maximus will kill your Elemental. Time your cooldown use accordingly, and be careful.
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby KysenMurrin » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:36 pm

So I started using simcraft, but it seems like a lot of work (either that or I'm doing it wrong). Sims take a long time, and if I want to get any use out of the stat weights I can't just use what I get on the first go, because reforging/enchanting/gemming with the first set of weights totally changes the weights the next time. And the only import tool that seems to work right is the armory, which means actually changing my in-game gear to get accurate stats in the sim.

Right now the damn thing's giving me weights that lead to AskMrRobot telling me to gem full haste, and I don't want to trial-and-error my way through all that to find out the real way to go.
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby JoeBravo » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:11 pm

That's how it works for me. If you have a quicker way, plz let me know
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby KysenMurrin » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:25 am

Anyone know how the T15 Enhance 4-set works? It reduces the cooldown on Feral Spirits by 8 seconds whenever Windfury Weapon triggers, but does that mean it reduces the remaining cooldown after you've used them, or the cooldown of the spell before you hit it?

I would have guessed the former, but the Mage set bonus in Dragon Soul did the latter.
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby Worldie » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:26 am

The cooldown of the spell already in progress :)
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Re: [Shaman] Advanced Tips and Advice?

Postby Jabari » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:42 am

Hey all,

How are you doing your Resto reforging?

I've always gone SPI > crit > mastery, while hitting the Earthliving+1 breakpoint.

Currently experimenting with hitting the totem breakpoint though - 3000 more haste needed (eek), but man it makes Healing Stream totem good - it's now usually #1 or #2 on my "Effective Healing Done" meter.

Also, when do you ever use Chain? I rarely ever do - usually prefer just going into a Riptide/HW/HW routine instead if a few people are a little low - seems like less mana to me (resurgance procs) and I don't have to even worry about how far apart people are. I'll only chain if pretty much everyone is clumped and the guy with the Riptide is also down some so I can start with that person, but I certainly could be "doing it wrong".

Thanks!
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