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Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:42 pm
by Shoju
You mean, at some point I will have to do more than stack lifebloom on the tank, and wild growth AoE heals?

I'm 72, and I don't think I've cast a "cast time" heal yet when I heal.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:47 pm
by Cogglamp
You know I've looked at logs of Resto druids and Wildgrowth is doing 40% of all the healing and I always think to myself "It can't be thaaattt easy, can it?" I'm sure I'm missing something but I always like to see how the other half lives.

Granted the logs I'm looking at aren't uber guild logs but it always makes me wonder.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:14 pm
by Treck
WG is more like 33% of their healing done on healing intensive fights.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:14 pm
by Treck
WG is more like 33% of their healing done on healing intensive fights.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:43 pm
by Sightblinder
when healing on my resto druid i always keep lifebloom X3, rejuv, and WG up on the tank at all times. that is usually enough to keep most "good and properly gemmed" tanks at full health in heroics. now with glyphed WG it will usually hit every member plus a pet in a 5 man so that really helps for the heals but also over heals alot. swiftmend is usually tossed in to add a bit of a big heal plus puts the aoe heal on the ground (effloresence?) so i try to use it when we are in one spot so not to waste the aoe. nourish acts like heal for priest and healing wave from shammans. healing touch acts like greater heal for priest and greater healing wave for shammans. regrowth acts like flash heal for priest and healing surge for shammans, the only diff is it does have a very small hot that comes with it (i think 3 sec). the reason that WG makes up for so much of our healing is that i belive its a smart heal, such as in BH when the eyes are out you can cast it on the tank but if he is close to full health it will go on the 6 members with the lowest percentage of HP. so WG with a correctly placed swiftmend will cause a lot of aoe heals. as well as a resto druids mastery is based off of hots on your target of a direct heal, so if you keep rolling WGs up it will boost your direct heals if they start taking damage. so as with the other classes nourish to top ppl off and healing touch for big damage moments and i usually only use regrowth in pvp.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:59 pm
by Cogglamp
Well, I've officially necro'd this thread. Sorry for that.

I did find what I think is a decent dummy guide for resto druids.

http://restodruid.info/patch-4-2-3/

Now back to your regularly scheduled Holy Priest programming...

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:01 pm
by bldavis
how did you necro it? it has been decently active over the past few days

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:00 am
by Cogglamp
Necro was probably the wrong word choice. Maybe hijack would have been better.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:26 am
by Amirya
I found out I forgot how to play warlock.

On another note, the resto druid site you found is pretty decent, IMO. I haven't seen any glaring obvious mistakes, but if I do, I'll yell. :D

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:46 pm
by Levantine
There won't be any large errors considering it's Keeva's site.

That woman is amazing and I'm so sadpanda she doesn't raid anymore.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:40 am
by Astronomic
i think its pretty much the same as healing wave/ healing surge/ greater healing wave, just sometimes you get free/instant flash of light procs so it should at least be on your bars.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:06 am
by Shoju
I'm stealing my thread back to talk holy priests now that I'm 85 and have done some heroics.

Throughout my limited heroics so far, I find that Renew and PoM are out in front as my #1 and #2 sources of healing when looking over my healing numbers. I know HPS isn't a "great" metric for gauging things, but right now, My mana pool is little, and I'm trying to make sure I'm not blowing a ton of overheal.

#3 and 4 have been really close. between Flash heal (3) and Heal (4) I try to save Flash Heal for emergencies only, and to keep serendipity handy (is that a good strategy?), and when it procs. I basically fill the gaps with heal, when there isn't a lot of healing going on.

I try to use HW:whatever whenever I can. So far, in heroics, I haven't used the AoE stuff much. I tried in HoO when the tank was being stupid, but that just led to a faster wipe. So, should I ever use Inner Will? Should I ever use the AoE Chakra?

I will limit it to these questions before I start asking more.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:16 am
by Cogglamp
I generally do not try to keep a serendipity stack available in a 5 man. If it's there, great, if not, it's not big deal to me.

I use Inner Will after wiping and running backs and if there is a mechanic that I fell asleep on and need to move quickly. Otherwise, I find Inner Fire running 99% of the time.

You'll use HW: Sanctuary primarily in raids. Maybe when I was first gearing up I ran HW: Sanctuary on Prophet Barim during the dark phase but really, that's it. HW: Serenity is running for me the vast majority of the time. The other reason for it is to keep Renew rolling on the tanks all the time.

PoM is great and the Glyph is even better.

Hope that helps.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:23 am
by Shoju
This is me.

I should probably toss that glyph in instead of dispel magic. that glyph I believe is a hold over from Wotlk I believe.

Re: Holy Priest spell choice.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:56 am
by Cogglamp
If you're running strictly 5 mans, you could actually remove CoH glyph since you're never healing more than 5 but yes, dispel magic isn't make or break really.

Also, Guardian Spirit glyph is meh in 5 mans since fights aren't long enough to have two guardian spirits even be usable. I prefer Prayer of Healing. I'd argue that PoH is even more superior in raids as well and GS glyph isn't really worth it at all.

Talent points are negotiable. I personally do not take the extra renew talents as I find it hard to blanket the raid in renews. I'd rather spend my talents in Tome of Light, a point in Blessed Resilience, and a point in Inner Sanctum. But I'm sure you'll find other priests doing what you do.