[Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Baelor » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:55 pm

Lore wrote:
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Jonlo wrote:See I'm getting conflicting reports from all over the place on this one. And I can't test it until tonight on Deconstructor. Hmmmmmmmmm

http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t36779-pala ... ost1271625
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It definitely will run the full duration while DS is up, done it many times.

Yea, it'll run for the full duration, but is it absorbing anything?
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Jonlo » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:06 pm

Yeah it goes until the end. Tested on XT-002 and Mimiron tonight. As long as you have Divine Shield up, Divine Sacrifice keeps absorbing damage.
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby majiben » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:36 am

Your priority assuming enough mana should be

CS > HoW > DS = Judgement (your choice here) > Consecrate > Exorcism.
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Jonlo » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:50 am

http://wowwebstats.com/3rqfsxjidrqi3?s=473770-517548

Updated from last night. Worked on my rotation, changed some keybindings, and regemmed my gear for 233 hit. I also just need 3 more Nobles cards. 4,5,8
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Fedaykin98 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:59 am

Majiben wrote:Your priority assuming enough mana should be

CS > HoW > DS = Judgement (your choice here) > Consecrate > Exorcism.


It has been suggested here at MT that glyphed Exorcism with 2pc T8 should come before Consecrate, although I have no idea of the OP's gear.
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Lore » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:28 am

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Majiben wrote:Your priority assuming enough mana should be

CS > HoW > DS = Judgement (your choice here) > Consecrate > Exorcism.


It has been suggested here at MT that glyphed Exorcism with 2pc T8 should come before Consecrate, although I have no idea of the OP's gear.


It's not a huge difference either way (around 20 DPS) but that's what I get out of Rawr.

It's a small enough difference that I can't really tell from just playing.
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby majiben » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:38 am

This is micro managing at this point but you could move around your JC gems for a better benefit. Move your JC gem out of your legs into your feet's blue socket. Stick a str/hit gem in your yellow socket in your boots. Stick a hit gem you old leg yellow socket in your legs.

You net 8 str, lose 2 unused hit but it does cost 1 autumn's glow, 1 monarch topaz and 1 dragon's eye. If you pay the AH prices that's easily 150g but if you buy from people by advertising in trade you should be able to get those for about 90g.

Definitely consider dropping mining for BS in the future.
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Jonlo » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:44 am

Majiben wrote:This is micro managing at this point but you could move around your JC gems for a better benefit. Move your JC gem out of your legs into your feet's blue socket. Stick a str/hit gem in your yellow socket in your boots. Stick a hit gem you old leg yellow socket in your legs.

You net 8 str, lose 2 unused hit but it does cost 1 autumn's glow, 1 monarch topaz and 1 dragon's eye. If you pay the AH prices that's easily 150g but if you buy from people by advertising in trade you should be able to get those for about 90g.

Definitely consider dropping mining for BS in the future.


I just don't see me picking up BS. I don't have a schedule that would allow me to make any kind of gold to pay for repairs and consumables at the same time as maintaining 2 crafting professions. Without Mining my only source of income would be Naxx runs and Dailies. I'm also not going to change up the socketing just yet, as I'd prefer to get new boots before I dump gold into these ones. Come on Malygos!
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Lore » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:09 am

Jonlo wrote:
Majiben wrote:This is micro managing at this point but you could move around your JC gems for a better benefit. Move your JC gem out of your legs into your feet's blue socket. Stick a str/hit gem in your yellow socket in your boots. Stick a hit gem you old leg yellow socket in your legs.

You net 8 str, lose 2 unused hit but it does cost 1 autumn's glow, 1 monarch topaz and 1 dragon's eye. If you pay the AH prices that's easily 150g but if you buy from people by advertising in trade you should be able to get those for about 90g.

Definitely consider dropping mining for BS in the future.


I just don't see me picking up BS. I don't have a schedule that would allow me to make any kind of gold to pay for repairs and consumables at the same time as maintaining 2 crafting professions. Without Mining my only source of income would be Naxx runs and Dailies. I'm also not going to change up the socketing just yet, as I'd prefer to get new boots before I dump gold into these ones. Come on Malygos!


Take up fishing and cooking, you can earn a good bit of cash that way.
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Jonlo » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:15 am

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Majiben wrote:This is micro managing at this point but you could move around your JC gems for a better benefit. Move your JC gem out of your legs into your feet's blue socket. Stick a str/hit gem in your yellow socket in your boots. Stick a hit gem you old leg yellow socket in your legs.

You net 8 str, lose 2 unused hit but it does cost 1 autumn's glow, 1 monarch topaz and 1 dragon's eye. If you pay the AH prices that's easily 150g but if you buy from people by advertising in trade you should be able to get those for about 90g.

Definitely consider dropping mining for BS in the future.


I just don't see me picking up BS. I don't have a schedule that would allow me to make any kind of gold to pay for repairs and consumables at the same time as maintaining 2 crafting professions. Without Mining my only source of income would be Naxx runs and Dailies. I'm also not going to change up the socketing just yet, as I'd prefer to get new boots before I dump gold into these ones. Come on Malygos!


Take up fishing and cooking, you can earn a good bit of cash that way.


How so?
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Kelaan » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:23 am

Fish and then cook stat food, sell it on the auction house, I presume. That, and selling cooking daily stuffs for fish feats? That is all I can think of. I haven't gotten my fishing over 100 (nor cooking), so I don't know.
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Fedaykin98 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:58 am

Jonlo: I don't know if you're in Ulduar 10, but Iron Council drops boots that are better than Maly25's.
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Lore » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:59 am

As of some recent patch (3.0.10 maybe?) there are no requirements on fishing skill to fish in an area (you just have a better chance of getting the good stuff). So, you can train fishing and immediately go start fishing up Dragonfin.

Cooking is a little more annoying but the only really tough part, as long as you also have Fishing, is around the 300-350 section (if I remember correctly). After that it's pretty smooth up until you can start doing the daily and cooking the stat fish.

All in all, as long as I'm keeping up on the cooking daily (it's really easy), I can spend about 30 minutes every couple days fishing and make 100-200g. It's similar income to mining or herbing, but doesn't take up a profession slot.
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby Jasari » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:08 am

Additionally, you can make a lot of money with crafting professions if you use them wisely. Belt Buckles, at least on my server sell on the AH for quite a bit more than the mats cost. Buying, crafting, selling a few of those each day can bring in some money, same with buying, cutting, selling gems (particularly meta gems).
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Re: [Ret-PvE]Need help with improving DPS

Postby majiben » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:51 am

More micro managing: You can more the JC gem in your head to your belt for an additional 4 str and stick a hit/str gem in the head. You would need to change your remaining pure hit gem to a hit/str one.

Also you can make more money on the AH than you can flying looking for ore. The only dailies I can recommend is the AD ones (besides cooking, JC and fishing) if you have the champion quests unlocked. I can make 400g in half an hour using the double daily method coupled with 2 airship dailies, the ground escort and the gnome mountain climbing. Also If you can't find a group for chillmaw while doing the jousting just solo it. Also you can joust while in a raid and still receive credit.
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