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[25]Malygos totally untankable ?

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[25]Malygos totally untankable ?

Postby Belarkan » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:32 pm

Ok, we headed tonight for malygos 10 x2 which went fine and then went for the 25 version as players have joined.

However, I feel like malygos is now a totally random encounter due the some bug almost one shooting a tank.

I happened several times that I have been from full health to dead in no time:

00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Belarkan for 16914 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Belarkan for 13156 #UNKNOWN. (3837 Resisted)
00:58'17.844 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Belarkan for 16448 #UNKNOWN.


That's 46518 in 0.032 seconds !
http://wowwebstats.com/6uvanpkrj3lbs?s= ... elarkan%22

I have hear of issues during P2, but how am I supposed to survive 46518 damages ?

If someone can point me what was wrong, that would really help a lot.
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Postby Elsie » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:03 pm

...Souffle des arcanes? Is that edible?

Looks like you got hit by three explosions. That would mean 2 other people were standing close enough to get the breathe debuff (and somehow survived) then explodinated you.
edit: seems there was a breathe attack at 00:58'12.000? Then you died around 5 seconds later to 3 explosions? That's s'all I got.

Malygos 25 does a great deal more damage than the 10. The breathe attack is a lot worse.
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Postby Chunes » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:20 pm

Souffle =/= Soufflé

:P
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Postby halfviking » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:46 pm

Chunes wrote:Souffle =/= Soufflé

:P


Soufflé tease :cry:
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Postby Elsie » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:22 pm

Chunes wrote:Souffle =/= Soufflé

I'll take two please, with ketchup.
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Postby Fridmarr » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:54 pm

Basically what Elsie is saying. This is what hit you http://fr.wowhead.com/?spell=60072. It's normal for that debuff to hit you, but if raid members get in front of Malygos, they'll get the debuff too, and when it goes off it'll take you down if they are still in range.
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Postby majiben » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:00 pm

I have heard that pets are bugging on that fight and causing issues. Hunters, demo locks and unholy DKs should be warned.
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Postby Othersider » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:42 pm

We had problems 2 nights ago with mystery breaths from "Unknown" and they stopped when I had everyone put away their pets.
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Postby Belarkan » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:56 pm

Elsie wrote:...Souffle des arcanes? Is that edible?


That's arcane breath.
Forgot about logs aren't translated in wws, I was a bit upset about the instant deaths.

Players weren't near me but I think pets were hanging around.
I'll ask to remove pets next time, thanks a lot for the tip.

Edit:
Indeed, pets have caused this:

00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Gelpep #2 for 761 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Belarkan for 16914 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Petitpied #2 for 872 #UNKNOWN. (5983 Resisted)
00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits LoqueNahak #2 for 1142 #UNKNOWN. (2030 Resisted)
00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Rupuri #2 for 781 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Gelpep #2 for 837 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Belarkan for 13156 #UNKNOWN. (3837 Resisted)
00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Petitpied #2 for 923 #UNKNOWN. (6329 Resisted)
00:58'17.812 nil Souffle des arcanes hits LoqueNahak #2 for 1030 #UNKNOWN. (4120 Resisted)
00:58'17.828 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Rupuri #2 for 780 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.828 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Gelpep #2 for 745 #UNKNOWN. (2070 Resisted)
00:58'17.844 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Belarkan for 16448 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.922 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Petitpied #2 for 1001 #UNKNOWN. (4003 Resisted)
00:58'17.922 nil Souffle des arcanes hits LoqueNahak #2 for 836 #UNKNOWN. (5732 Resisted)
00:58'17.922 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Rupuri #2 for 788 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.922 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Gelpep #2 for 779 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.922 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Petitpied #2 for 1044 #UNKNOWN. (4175 Resisted)
00:58'17.922 nil Souffle des arcanes hits LoqueNahak #2 for 780 #UNKNOWN. (8328 Resisted)
00:58'17.922 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Rupuri #2 for 793 #UNKNOWN.
00:58'17.922 nil Souffle des arcanes hits Gelpep #2 for 770 #UNKNOWN.


Gelpep, Petitpied, LoqueNahak, Rupuri are pets.
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Postby Claydon » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:40 am

It happens when people and pets are in the red circle that surrounds Malygos when you target him. it only happens when he lands after the vortex. just make sure people with pets keep them away from the boss and that people run away before he lands.

we lost a number of melee DPS because of pets blowing them up before we realised what the problem was.
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Postby Snake-Aes » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:57 am

Claydon wrote:It happens when people and pets are in the red circle that surrounds Malygos when you target him. it only happens when he lands after the vortex. just make sure people with pets keep them away from the boss and that people run away before he lands.

we lost a number of melee DPS because of pets blowing them up before we realised what the problem was.
This. Pets currently lag before following players, so players with pets gotta spam follow while they run away too.
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Postby Vanifae » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:07 am

Also the explosion is much larger then it was before 3.0.8; so it could be careless players.
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Postby Nalyn » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:20 am

Claydon wrote:It happens when people and pets are in the red circle that surrounds Malygos when you target him. it only happens when he lands after the vortex. just make sure people with pets keep them away from the boss and that people run away before he lands.

we lost a number of melee DPS because of pets blowing them up before we realised what the problem was.


Is this what it is? Our first real night of 25 man attempts, we had HUGE issues with people just randomly dieing from 20k+ hits, that were labeled in the combat log as breaths, but they were obviously behind the dragon, usually melees, though we did have more than a few instances of casters and healers getting nuked.

It makes a lot more sense if it's pets getting hit with the breath debuff, then getting back behind the mob, or following their master towards the back of the raid, and finally exploding, and taking out several people.

Though we did come back 2 days later, after clearing naxx, and did get him down, it took us several tries (the lag on Aggramarr, and the Vindication battlegroup, is getting really REALLY old), but I also don't remember us having any issues with people getting randomly instagibbed, during phase one, on the second night.
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Postby rocket » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:50 am

i have personally called "dismiss pets" on a middle attempt (#5), and all breaths ceased - except the usual one on the MT.

spent a few attempts then on optimizing some of the nits, and got him last week.

for us, pets seemed to make the difference
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