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Warrior T7 vs Paladin T7... sigh...

Postby gomefun2 » Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:09 pm

I haven't done any math yet, but it seems like the stacking of block rating on pally T7 will make it much worse than warrior T7 which has actual avoidance stats.

Can someone that understands the mechanics tell me if this is true?

The only way I can think this will benefit the paladin tank is that if a warrior MUST take some FULL DAMAGE normal hits, while the paladin can block every single attack or avoid them.

If warriors can get to the point where they never take a normal hit (they either avoid all attacks or block them), then it would seem like the pally tank would be much worse off (as warriors have bigger block values anyway).
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Re: Warrior T7 vs Paladin T7... sigh...

Postby moduspwnens » Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:23 pm

gomefun2 wrote:The only way I can think this will benefit the paladin tank is that if a warrior MUST take some FULL DAMAGE normal hits, while the paladin can block every single attack or avoid them.


This is the case. As long as they don't continue itemizing the gear with block rating after the point that it comes useful, we believe that's the idea. They've already acknowledged that our blocking mechanics start sucking as gear improves, but since the gear doesn't yet exist they haven't addressed it. GC has said they will, though.
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Re: Warrior T7 vs Paladin T7... sigh...

Postby knaughty » Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:29 pm

gomefun2 wrote:I haven't done any math yet,

/YodaVoice

An that is why you fail!

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gomefun2 wrote:a warrior MUST take some FULL DAMAGE normal hits, while the paladin can block every single attack or avoid them.

FIXT.

Get Block capped. 2nd gear goal after uncrit. Block rating on T-7 gear is actually good - it's had to hit 102.4%, and that's the most efficient way.
gomefun2 wrote:If warriors can get to the point where they never take a normal hit.

Unpossible.
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Postby Tyaera » Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:49 pm

I'm more concerned with the looks of the two armor sets.
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Postby mazater » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:39 pm

Tyaera wrote:I'm more concerned with the looks of the two armor sets.

This.

T7's gonna ruin the awesome looks of my boobadin. :<
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Postby fafhrd » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:15 pm

Mazater wrote:
Tyaera wrote:I'm more concerned with the looks of the two armor sets.

This.

T7's gonna ruin the awesome looks of my boobadin. :<


Let me be the judge of that please.
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Postby knaughty » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:22 pm

Tyaera wrote:I'm more concerned with the looks of the two armor sets.


Power Ranger vs Juggernaut.

/sigh

Hopefully T-8 looks like, YANNOW, tanking gear? Or at least something other than 1990's anime heroine.
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Postby mazater » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:23 pm

fafhrd wrote:
Let me be the judge of that please.

Judge this:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272 ... Fat_Al.jpg
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Postby PsiVen » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:25 pm

Mazater wrote:
fafhrd wrote:
Let me be the judge of that please.

Judge this:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272 ... Fat_Al.jpg


That looks like more an Anorexadin or Noboobadin if you prefer.
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Postby moduspwnens » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:27 pm

More like a secksadin.
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Postby gomefun2 » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:53 pm

Knaughty wrote:
Tyaera wrote:I'm more concerned with the looks of the two armor sets.


Power Ranger vs Juggernaut.

/sigh

Hopefully T-8 looks like, YANNOW, tanking gear? Or at least something other than 1990's anime heroine.


there is another tier set out there (prolly T8). people thought it was T7 a while ago, but it is most likely T8. The paladin gear looks ok in T8... but the rest look awesome (only the mage prolly got screwed over more lol).
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Postby Tahl » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:03 am

Back on the topic, I remember seeing comparisons of these two early on and thinking how horrendous it was to lose so much avoidance for block. But now that diminishing returns were introduced, and stats like dodge start to taper off dramatically around 25-30%, what's the real difference in avoidance between these two sets? Aren't we going to be pretty much at that taper point even if our T7 sacrifices some dodge for block? Some of the extra avoidance on the warrior set may be going to waste.
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Postby Worldie » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:54 am

Mazater wrote:
fafhrd wrote:
Let me be the judge of that please.

Judge this:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272 ... Fat_Al.jpg

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Postby mazater » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:00 am

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Postby ziggyunderslashone » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:28 am

Tahl wrote:But now that diminishing returns were introduced, and stats like dodge start to taper off dramatically around 25-30%, what's the real difference in avoidance between these two sets?

In order to reach 102.4 in currently available gear, you rely on either a perfect alignment of buffs, or to specifically gear (ie: gem) towards it.

Basically the block rating on t7 would be a problem at a higher gear level, but is actually fabulous at around, ooh, t7 :D
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