Now that AW causes forbearance again

[TokenElf]

I just don't understand these hotfixes(and they are all to Ret), is it really needed to balance lvl 70 PvP when we are two weeks away from expansion?

In the meanwhile arcane mages are two-shotting people and that is fine..

And Resto druids were getting their shoulders with no issues for 3 seasons and they never got hotfixed to stop dominating as healers in 2v.

Warriors were 22% of all arena characters above 2K for 3 seasons. No hotfixes there.

But if a ret paladin can get there, TO THE GROUND BABY

[Nemue]

What seems to elude everyone complaining about retridins, is that retridins get every single dpstalent they need with the talentpts they have at lvl70, while pretty much every other class needs the extra 10 from reach lvl80 to reach their full potential.

By the time we reach 80 and everyone has caught up, we´ll be behind, again.

[Sabindeus]

What seems to elude everyone complaining about retridins, is that retridins get every single dpstalent they need with the talentpts they have at lvl70, while pretty much every other class needs the extra 10 from reach lvl80 to reach their full potential.

By the time we reach 80 and everyone has caught up, we´ll be behind, again.

Well that's just false.

[Sabindeus]

I just don't understand these hotfixes(and they are all to Ret), is it really needed to balance lvl 70 PvP when we are two weeks away from expansion?

In the meanwhile arcane mages are two-shotting people and that is fine..

And Resto druids were getting their shoulders with no issues for 3 seasons and they never got hotfixed to stop dominating as healers in 2v.

Warriors were 22% of all arena characters above 2K for 3 seasons. No hotfixes there.

But if a ret paladin can get there, TO THE GROUND BABY

It's true. I don't understand why so many hotfixes were needed for this.

[Worldie]

It's true. I don't understand why so many hotfixes were needed for this.

I'm personally hotfixing myself by having a warrior ready to use if they don't stop nerfing retri and backfiring that on us before the 13 of november

[Io.Draco]

It's true. I don't understand why so many hotfixes were needed for this.

I'm personally hotfixing myself by having a warrior ready to use if they don't stop nerfing retri and backfiring that on us before the 13 of november

By looking at your warrior I would say you already decided on that

[Worldie]

Nah i really havent decided what to play in WotLK, but the costant unnecessary nerfs we're getting because of retri make me wish they delete retribution tree completely and replace it with a button "Transform your character into a arms warrior".

p.s armory is outdated, my warrior looks much cooler now (ssc mace + gruul shield) and has the band of etenity too, and some more upgrades

[Lother]

Nah i really havent decided what to play in WotLK, but the costant unnecessary nerfs we're getting because of retri make me wish they delete retribution tree completely and replace it with a button "Transform your character into a arms warrior".

p.s armory is outdated, my warrior looks much cooler now (ssc mace + gruul shield) and has the band of etenity too, and some more upgrades

Traitor

[Worldie]

Meh, spellreflecting pyros is addictive, believe me :<

[Fenris]

Think i dont have words left....

.....i'll go remove AW from my bar for pve,brb

[Elsie]

They've seen the massive influx of paladins as people feeling they need to be paladin to compete. I see this as a majority of those people wanted to be a paladin, but they could not since paladin is not, historically and currently, competitive.


Really, paladin is extremely strong against people with lesser gear. However, in arena settings where the majority of players have resilience and season 3 or better those advantages are quickly stripped.


I still want divine shield to turn into magic and debuff immunity with no forbearance. See my previous post on the subject. And this would be a buff to Protection paladins.

[Snikks]

It's true. I don't understand why so many hotfixes were needed for this.

I'm personally hotfixing myself by having a warrior ready to use if they don't stop nerfing retri and backfiring that on us before the 13 of november

Snap, my warrior has started levelling rather rapidly after this last "fix".

[Erendis]

You know, I think i'd almost be fine with this if they went back to a 1 minute forebearance.

[moduspwnens]

It's just a little patronizing that they don't seem to think things like this through.

[KysenMurrin]

They're getting close to deadline, and hotfixing is their solution to not having enough time to implement properly and still get adequate testing on whether the change works. It isn't ideal, because with hotfixes are limited in what they can change (note that GC said they'd use forbearance *if* it could be hotfixed to shorter duration, which it apparently could).
This change was done on short notice, yes, and it's not particularly well implemented, but I think it was really just a "lets see if locking out bubble and wings make ret pvp look more balanced" change, and I trust they'll actually fix the implementation after they've seen the result. Remember that from the patch day to WotLK release 3.0 is still essentially a work in progress (yes that can be said of WoW as a whole, but they at least try to get things to a stable state by release).