Weapon Oils and Sharpening Stones gone

[Splug]

Inventory slot ++.

-Splug

[Lore]

This only means people will now farm old world / TBC content for weapon oils and stones.

You missed the part where they can't be used on level 80 weapons.

[Petrus]

I guess I don't mind the change, but their reason isn't very good. Wizard oil was a very cheap commodity and certainly wasn't a burden on the cost of raiding.

[fafhrd]

Now they just need to get rid of repair costs, and we'll be all set.

[Eanin]

Since I always carry around two wizard oils and two mana oils, this is very good news.

Of course, I should probably just carry wizard oils, given the spellpower change. Old habits die hard .

[Snake-Aes]

<has 2 gigantique stacks of wizard oil from early raiding + leveling enchanting

[Samilyn]

Since I always carry around two wizard oils and two mana oils, this is very good news.

Of course, I should probably just carry wizard oils, given the spellpower change. Old habits die hard .

The +40 damage always applied to healing as well, so they were always better in situations where mana wasn't a huge issue.

I'm a little bummed that enchanters will lose a source of income from this, especially if they had put in something easy to make and better than ZG oils.

Now they just need to make Flasks better than elixirs for all classes and we'll be set.



EDIT: +40 Spellpower is still quite a bit. Will this make some level 79 weapons + oil superior to level 80 weapons at the start of WOTLK raiding?

[Splug]

EDIT: +40 Spellpower is still quite a bit. Will this make some level 79 weapons + oil superior to level 80 weapons at the start of WOTLK raiding?

I doubt it. It might make a 79 blue better than an 80 blue, but I'm pretty sure when you hit an 80 epic the item value jumps enough to compensate that spellpower.

-Splug

[Ocin]

i'll miss being able to max out my performance if for some reason i fall behind in gear upgrades and could use a boost. same goes for not being able to chain-chug ironshield and destro pots. oh well, "welcome" to our new, nerfy overlords.

[fafhrd]

EDIT: +40 Spellpower is still quite a bit. Will this make some level 79 weapons + oil superior to level 80 weapons at the start of WOTLK raiding?

I doubt it. It might make a 79 blue better than an 80 blue, but I'm pretty sure when you hit an 80 epic the item value jumps enough to compensate that spellpower.

-Splug

For dps oils yes. But if they're taking out mana regen oils as well, it could conceivably be better to use a weapon that lets you not run oom, especially if you're a class that uses melee weapons as stat sticks, and doesn't actually use them to melee with.

[Elsie]

This only means people will now farm old world / TBC content for weapon oils and stones.

You missed the part where they can't be used on level 80 weapons.

...sigh, this makes me a sad panda. I kind of enjoyed weapon enchants.

What on earth is the point of removing windfury as a weapon buff to allow for other things besides to give rogues a second poison in pve?
I would have prefered removing food to weapon enchants. Lord knows what I've paid in 4 different kinds of food (hit, str, stam, spell dmg).

[fafhrd]

This only means people will now farm old world / TBC content for weapon oils and stones.

You missed the part where they can't be used on level 80 weapons.

...sigh, this makes me a sad panda. I kind of enjoyed weapon enchants.


What on earth is the point of removing windfury as a weapon buff to allow for other things besides to give rogues a second poison in pve?

To make it useful for ferals, pets and hunters ohwaitnvm

[Splug]

This only means people will now farm old world / TBC content for weapon oils and stones.

You missed the part where they can't be used on level 80 weapons.

...sigh, this makes me a sad panda. I kind of enjoyed weapon enchants.


What on earth is the point of removing windfury as a weapon buff to allow for other things besides to give rogues a second poison in pve?

To make it useful for ferals, pets and hunters ohwaitnvm

It also now benefits dual wield classes in a way more similar to how it benefits 2h classes, and is a regular sustained damage increase rather than a massive burst increase. The real killer was trying to balance pvp burst damage around the presence or absence of a major change provided by another class.

-Splug

[GothicPL]

The +40 damage always applied to healing as well, so they were always better in situations where mana wasn't a huge issue.

No, not according to the character tab. Before the spell power unification, superior wizard oil only bumped the damage and not the healing part. Healers used either BC mp5 oil or old world hybrid +heal/+mp5 "brilliant" oil.

[Elsie]

It also now benefits dual wield classes in a way more similar to how it benefits 2h classes, and is a regular sustained damage increase rather than a massive burst increase. The real killer was trying to balance pvp burst damage around the presence or absence of a major change provided by another class.

I'd disagree with this. The benefit for 2h and dual wield classes is on par. Neither could use the items in arena, anyway.