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quick question about Divine Guardian

Postby Wakeman » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:28 am

Sorry but I would just want a confirmation. Is Divine Guardian still work like it was earlier that the redirected damage is all absorbed by Divine Shield, or did it change in the past few weeks?

I can't test it myself as I haven't resumed my account. :P
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Postby Worldie » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:32 am

You don't take damage.
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Postby Wakeman » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:43 am

Thx for the quick reply. :)
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Postby ziggyunderslashone » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:25 am

I’m really going to try to find points for DG (probably swiping one from 2/2 imp judge, which is a preference for caster style trash). It’s obviously situational, but in those situations it could be pretty massive. It’s basically a raidwide shield wall, highly useful for something like mage/priest fel rages (in combination with intervene), gruul shatters or specific raidwide events like maggy’s cave in. If you dropped it after a Naj’entus shield you’d soak 61k damage. It has it's downside of course, but I suspect it's needed to balance.

Really liking, especially for something I picked largely to test while spec wasn’t much of an issue.
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Postby Morendin » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:37 am

I can confirm that there IS a damage redirection mechanic which you're immune to via DS, though, since it bugged out and didn't end after DS wore off last night...stayed up until we got out of combat, and I was taking rather a lot of damage(Eredar twins)
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Postby daemonym » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:04 am

hmm, makes me wonder if you could use hand of sacrifice+divine guardian to give somebody an extra shield wall effect. how do HoS and divine guardian stack, if at all? could be interesting indeed.
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Postby Worldie » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:41 am

Note that HoS redirected damage pierces through Divine Shield
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Postby majiben » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:47 am

Worldie wrote:Note that HoS redirected damage pierces through Divine Shield
Is the damage redirect reduced by damage reductions? For instance if you had imp RF on and used HoSac would you take 28% of the damage rather than 30%? If so DS + HoS could mean you have reduced the damage you take with the combo to 20% of what the tank would have taken had you not used HoSac or DS.
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Postby Fizzgig » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:01 pm

Worldie wrote:Note that HoS redirected damage pierces through Divine Shield


Are you sure? I cleared my stack on a felrage and left my shield up the other night, and HoS'd the priest and I just had a ton of red zero's pop up on my screen.
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Postby Worldie » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:20 pm

HoS counts as selfinflicted damage and thus pierces immunity, unless they changed it recently.
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Postby Fridmarr » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:48 pm

Worldie wrote:HoS counts as selfinflicted damage and thus pierces immunity, unless they changed it recently.


I haven't tried it since 3.0, but it never did this before 3.0.
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Postby PsiVen » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:05 pm

That doesn't make sense, as far as I can tell self-inflicted damage does not pierce immunity. I've been using JoB with bubble up whenever I got low on health on my belfadin.
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Postby Zironic » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:21 pm

The only damage I know off that can go through immunity is scripted damage such as Gruuls shatter. Has anyone tried Divine Shield + Demonic Rune?
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Postby majiben » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:23 pm

Zironic wrote:The only damage I know off that can go through immunity is scripted damage such as Gruuls shatter. Has anyone tried Divine Shield + Demonic Rune?
I can tell you from my warlock that a damage shield + lifetap still means you loss life.
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Postby Thyrion » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:23 pm

You could also use dark or demonic runes safely under DS.
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