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Crit in wotlk (protadin question)

Postby Vanqadin » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:00 am

I know crit rating will provide crit % for spells and mele and that agility only provides crit for mele. What i want to know which of our spells use mele crit and which use spell crit. Other question is agility worth using at all come wotlk ?
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Postby Worldie » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:02 am

About all our spells use melee crit.
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Re: Crit in wotlk (protadin question)

Postby Jasari » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:03 am

Vanqadin wrote:I know crit rating will provide crit % for spells and mele and that agility only provides crit for mele. What i want to know which of our spells use mele crit and which use spell crit. Other question is agility worth using at all come wotlk ?


Agil doesn't change at all from BC to WotLK, it still adds some dodge and armor which is useful for survivability. But per point isn't too comparable to str in terms of goodness.
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Postby majorwoo » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:31 am

in the WotLK age isn't the answer crit=crit so anything that can crit uses our single crit rating?
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Postby Alberich » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:37 am

majorwoo wrote:in the WotLK age isn't the answer crit=crit so anything that can crit uses our single crit rating?


This is true, except we do still have separate melee and spell crit ratings. Combat Expertise only buffs the melee side of things, so our melee crit will always be 6% higher (with the exception of spell crit-only buffs)
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Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:44 am

majorwoo wrote:in the WotLK age isn't the answer crit=crit so anything that can crit uses our single crit rating?

Crit and Hit ratings were merged, but there is still seperate Crit and Hit chance; the ratings just increase both of them now. It was an itemisation change, not a mechanics change.
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Postby majorwoo » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:55 am

thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: Crit in wotlk (protadin question)

Postby Lumennon » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:04 am

Jasari wrote:Agil doesn't change at all from BC to WotLK, it still adds some dodge and armor which is useful for survivability. But per point isn't too comparable to str in terms of goodness.


I'm not entirely sure on this one, but didn't they also increase the Agi -> Dodge ratio?
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Postby Ragingsoul » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:10 pm

just get a feral druid and shaman in the group, I was at 23% crit while tanking, with more than 2k AP. you don't need more crit.
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Re: Crit in wotlk (protadin question)

Postby knaughty » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:09 pm

Vanqadin wrote:Other question is agility worth using at all come wotlk ?

Not to stack. It's good, but lots of other things are better.

If it's on your gear that's fine, but don't gem it, and only enchant it if you have no better option (like maybe weapon at 70, though I prefer Potency for DPS while solo).
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Re: Crit in wotlk (protadin question)

Postby crabcrouton » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:22 pm

Lumennon wrote:I'm not entirely sure on this one, but didn't they also increase the Agi -> Dodge ratio?

That's something I've been wondering about as well, and I can't seem to find any info on it.

We still have the best Agi -> Melee Crit ratio out of the classes that can use it according to this: http://rrvs.blogspot.com/2008/08/wotlk-combat-ratings.html

So if we assume (pure conjecture warning) that Agi:Crit is similar to Agi:Dodge, then it's still unchanged from Live. Without knowing the Agi:Dodge ratio, it's hard to make an argument whether the mix of dodge, armor and crit will make it better or worse than another stat, say Strength.
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