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Postby Legionp » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:03 pm

With the change to Spell power -> healing, will this actually be nice for Healing now? 290 Spell power is quite a bit.
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Postby Fizzgig » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:05 pm

isn't it damage and healing in live currently?
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Postby Snake-Aes » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:07 pm

Fizzgig wrote:isn't it damage and healing in live currently?
Yes it is, but 1 healing from damage costs 1 item point. 1 healing from healing costs 0,3. Wrath's healing scaling takes spell power with a coefficient that is equivalent to 2/3 of today's +heal, which is still much more heal per sp than the current heal from sd.

it's roughly as if the proc now added 460 +heal


tl;dr: Spell power >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage and healing.
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Postby ulushnar » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:08 pm

Fizzgig wrote:isn't it damage and healing in live currently?


Yes, but 290 spellpower in 3.0 is better for healing than 290 damage/healing on live.
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Postby Lumenos » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:10 pm

It is damage and healing. If it's being changed to 290 spell power though, that would mean it's way more than 290 +heal. I think it's either 1.6 or 1.8 times the spell power is +heal, making the item 464 or 522 +heal when it procs.

Pretty significant +heal increase. May be worth using as a healer.
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Postby Fizzgig » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:12 pm

Yeah I was overlooking coefficients with the new changes. It is indeed changed to just 290 spellpower.
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Postby Kayoto » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:13 pm

Most healers will still probably prefer trinkets like Essence of the Martyr for the ability to control when they get their healing bonus (there are many, many 'predictable' moments in raids where you know you'll need to heal harder).

But yes, it does make the trinket a viable option for Holy Pallies now.
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Postby Eanin » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:49 am

It's absolutely awesome right now on test for healing. It's proc rate is extremely high, so it's usually up about a third of the time. It's already one of the best healing trinkets available according to maxdps and it just about doubled in effectiveness. Insane.

As a pally threat trinket, though, it's no longer quite as incredible :(.
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Postby Corman » Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:39 am

Once I could trust my healers to stay awake when I had several aboms plus all the crypt fiends and ghouls, I finally got to break this sucker out (only previous time I used on morogrim). It was so beautiful.... Even full out spam of SoC by Silly Locks wasn't ripping mobs off me (was 670 SD or so). It would proc for about 15s once a minute and bc of the proc rate is high, you could almost force it to proc at the start of a pull.
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