Seal of Corruption now destroys SoR :(

[Equitas]

Does anybody know if Judging 5 stacks of vengeance/corruption eats up the stacks and you have to start anew or if the stacks remain?

[lesurk]

Does anybody know if Judging 5 stacks of vengeance/corruption eats up the stacks and you have to start anew or if the stacks remain?

It doesn't in The Burning Crusade.

[jere]

It never did before.

[Dorvan]

So, thoughts on seal twisting? Seems like it might not be worth it if you're missing out on a bunch of Judgement damage.

2 min Seals (with upward adjusted mana costs) killed seal twisting

[Sark]

Yeah it took a bit to wrap my head around this but I quickly got the hang of it; 2k crit Judgments with Seal of Corruption is pretty nice for leveling and the fact that HotR keeps it up on multiple mobs makes it fantastic for multi-mob grinding and tanking.

I dare say I really really like these changes when I play live I feel so gimped compared to my Beta character; the Judgment change is well done and yeah once you get that full stack up you can do some serious damage with Corruption/Vengeance.

Really?

[Worldie]

Yes, with last patch HotR applies the seal to all the targets (not judgements, however)

[Vanifae]

* All Seals have been reduced to 1 rank and now cost 14% of base mana. The duration has been increased to 2 minutes and are no longer consumed when a Judgement spell is cast. The effects can be triggered from all weapon based special abilities.

- Seal of Blood now increases Judgement damage by 45% of weapon damage.
- Seal of Command now increases Judgement damage by 30% of weapon damage, 60% on stunned targets.
- Seal of the Crusader has been removed. The effects of Judgement of the Crusader have been folded into all relevant abilities.
- Seal of Righteousness deals damage based on weapons peed plus an amount based on attack power and spell power, increases Judgement damage by

- Emphasis mine.

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[jere]

On a side note, some of the testing at EJ seems to indicate that this latch patch did buff the seal portion of SoV (but not the judgement).

This might move it in favor of SoV.

Previously a 5 stack dealt 7%AP + V(3.4%SP), where V is the stack size.

Currently it is now doing V*(7%AP + 3.4%SP)

That increases the 5 stack coefficient from 7% to 35%, which would make it scale much better than SoR in terms of AP (but still inferior in terms of SP). I guess I need to work on redoing the math.

Just for reference the SoR DPS coefficients are 5%AP and 10%SP (assuming 100% chance to hit, less if not).

The previous SoV DPS coefficients were 2.33%AP and 5.67%SP
The current SoV DPS coefficients are 11.67%AP and 5.67%SP

So, SoV could indeed start outscaling SoR depending on your AP, expertise, and hit.

[Lore]

So you can keep a SoV/C 5-stack on 3 mobs at once?

Epic.

[solina]

If a 5-stack of SoV(C) is on a target, can you swap to SoR and judge for 175% damage? Or will it ignore the stack since you're now judging righteousness?

[Vanifae]

If a 5-stack of SoV(C) is on a target, can you swap to SoR and judge for 175% damage? Or will it ignore the stack since you're now judging righteousness?

It will ignore the stack and use the Bonus from Judging Righteousness.

Each Seal has its own affect/Bonus when you Judge.

[Vanifae]

So you can keep a SoV/C 5-stack on 3 mobs at once?

Epic.

Yeah it confused the crap out of me last night I would Hammer and then see another set of numbers on secondary mobs and I was confused. It is most excellent.

[Lore]

WTB MY FRIGGIN BETA KEY

[PsiVen]

The number of stacks affects the bonus to the judgment; i.e. an additional 10% damage per stack up to 50%.

Err, right, I fail at reading comprehension. And I'm quoting you from the future.

Lore: If it's any consolation, it doesn't feel much better to know that I will be getting a key... in over a week.

[Vanifae]

The number of stacks affects the bonus to the judgment; i.e. an additional 10% damage per stack up to 50%.